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Author Topic: Era of Diesel: Fall of Europa: OOC Thread  (Read 43489 times)

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Re: Era of Diesel: Fall of Europa: OOC Thread
« Reply #345 on: December 13, 2014, 05:59:29 pm »

Something I am also keeping in mind. Wars as they are are already too skewed toward the defense I think.
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« Reply #346 on: December 13, 2014, 06:04:33 pm »

Something I am also keeping in mind. Wars as they are are already too skewed toward the defense I think.
Are you joking? Any two nations (with equal research) that have researched Explosive shells (or above) will have an easier time attacking each other's non-fortified province then defending it. If they research Howitzers, even fortified provinces will not carry a benefit.
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« Reply #347 on: December 13, 2014, 06:11:29 pm »

You're forgetting radio though, and the fact that most attacked provinces will be fortified.
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« Reply #348 on: December 13, 2014, 06:13:53 pm »

Also, there are very few front-line unfortified provinces.
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« Reply #349 on: December 13, 2014, 06:22:00 pm »

You're forgetting radio though, and the fact that most attacked provinces will be fortified.
I have, literally, never had to attack a fortified province (I guess, I will this turn, huh? ;)). And I have so far been in 3 wars. Radio goes both ways- there is a tier 2 defense boost (only in provinces with HQs, which have a tendency to not be provinces on the front, due to requiring a large investment of resources) and a tier 3 attack boost (same).
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« Reply #350 on: December 13, 2014, 06:24:16 pm »

To be honest, your case was a special one: an early backstab, and tntey for some reasons not bothering to build fortifications in #26 despite having the PIs.
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« Reply #351 on: December 13, 2014, 06:39:04 pm »

A fully tech'd army in province with airfield, hq and forts has (+2, +1, +1, +2) +6 to defense. Another +1 if dictatorship, and +1 if militaristic.

A fully tech'd army attacking from province with airfield and hq has (+3, +1, +1) +5 to attack. Another +1 if militaristic.

However, Howitzers lower enemy Fort bonus to +1, and Strategic Bombing(s) can reduce enemy defense further with proper planning.
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« Reply #352 on: December 13, 2014, 07:25:16 pm »

So, really +5 Vs. +5 at full tech.
Combine that with the fact that a successful defense weakens the enemy slightly, while a successful attack gains you territory and weakens the enemy and you will notice that a good offense really is the best defense..
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« Reply #353 on: December 14, 2014, 06:55:15 am »

I took a decision: 10ebbor10, you'll resubmit your turn, not conditional build order. I'll then re-roll everything.
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« Reply #354 on: December 14, 2014, 08:26:52 am »

Okay, this is highly in my favour, but whatever.

I will assume that an invalid production order is wasted, and that orders are processed sequentially.
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« Reply #355 on: December 14, 2014, 09:12:15 am »

before I'm accused of trying for a 3rd reroll, I'd like to point out now that amphibious assaults are at -1 penalty.
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« Reply #356 on: December 15, 2014, 06:27:47 am »

Indeed. And yeah, orders are processed sequentially, invalid orders are wasted.
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« Reply #357 on: December 15, 2014, 09:06:22 am »

Okay, Sheb. Albion didn't use the Norwegian/Barents fleets, did he?
How do you think I attacked the Russian Capital?

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« Reply #358 on: December 15, 2014, 09:09:44 am »

I got confused by the reroll, nevermind.
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Re: Era of Diesel: Fall of Europa: OOC Thread
« Reply #359 on: December 15, 2014, 09:36:34 am »

Wait what? Why does Albion get a second turn?

Tis a re-roll, not another turn. The previous one is null.
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