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[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I forget

I think it was more along the lines of a sword to protect your family but then again your statement would work on those lines too

[Leafsnail]

all who take the sword will perish by the sword

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I gotta be honest
I wouldn't mind dieing by the sword
Sure it'd be painful but can you imagine the fight scene
ya not very impressive but still

[Leafsnail]

The thing about buying swords is another ridiculous misinterpretation that can be defeated not through tortured reasoning but by reading the whole passage.

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.

It is very clear if you read this whole passage that Jesus simply wanted to be arrested so that a prophecy would be fulfilled. Consider also that Jesus rebukes Peter for trying to use one of the swords later ("all who take the sword will perish by the sword")

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The thing about buying swords is another ridiculous misinterpretation that can be defeated not through tortured reasoning but by reading the whole passage.

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.

It is very clear if you read this whole passage that Jesus simply wanted to be arrested so that a prophecy would be fulfilled. Consider also that Jesus rebukes Peter for trying to use one of the swords later ("all who take the sword will perish by the sword")

Peter didn't try to use the sword, he totally goes Blood For The Blood God out of nowhere and slices a Roman soldier's ear off. It's a hilarious scene, because Peter was a fucking fisherman and he manages to gruesomely wound a trained solider right after Jesus tells him not to do anything like that. Then Jesus heals the ear back on with commentary that I can only imagine in a snidely annoyed voice. If it wasn't meant to be funny than somebody down the translation line decided to go that way with it, because it's great.

[Gentlefish]

Humans created in God's image. Animals created for humans' plates.

Honestly, I detest that train of thought. There are ecosystems so insulated, self-reliant, and distant from humanity that it is hard to justify that the sole existence of animals is for the consumption of humans.

but it is our imperative to eat deadly stinging jellyfish that's why they were put there obviously.

[Orange Wizard]

Well, they don't really exist for any other purpose, and if they taste nice, why not?

[Frumple]

Well, they don't really exist for any other purpose

Are you sure about that? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Because all we've got on the subject from a biblical perspective is texts written by humans, and there's something of a bias, there. To say nothing about the possibility of missing gospel and new prophets and whatnot. Purpose of the squid may be to be uplifted into majestic void squid and spread the word of squid!YWHW to the cosmos. You really comfortable saying with surety that there's no other purpose for non-humans but to be consumed by humans?

... where's that put the critters that just straight up kill us when we eat it, anyway?

[TD1]

Well, they don't really exist for any other purpose, and if they taste nice, why not?

They exist for and with as much purpose as we do. To say that something is simply there, not because it's a life form in its own right, but as a source of food, is rather ridiculous. God gave us animals? Why, the only thing that separates us from the animals (By which I mean, made us capable of consciously manipulating them) is a strange evolutionary leap.

E: Also, if it's the case that animals were put here for our consumption, how come there are animals that eat human? Is this an oversight by God?

[BlindKitty]

Well, it's not like every animal is meant for immediate consumption by people. Some are meant to give us leather/milk/fur/wool/whatever, for example. But more importantly, they are created in sort of ecological equilibrium, so some of them are meant to uphold this equilibrium so other animals (that we feast on) can thrive.

[Cheeetar]

Theoretically, why not just create tasty stuff that didn't require other non-tasty stuff around for it to exist?

[BlindKitty]

Well, to make it harder for us to just straight up eat everything in an area and make it desolate wasteland? To make taxonomists' lives more interesting? I don't know, and you would need to ask God for that. As far as I know, we could live on Earth where there is only one species of autotrophe, lets call it Green Soylent, and no other plant, animal or fungus. Which would be pretty boring, so there you go, another reason. Since I believe in omniscient God, I also believe He had a reason to choose such system for Earth, but I can not state for sure why. You could probably try reading some Doctors of Church for an answer, as it is possible that somebody tried to figure it out.

[TD1]

Well, it's not like every animal is meant for immediate consumption by people. Some are meant to give us leather/milk/fur/wool/whatever, for example. But more importantly, they are created in sort of ecological equilibrium, so some of them are meant to uphold this equilibrium so other animals (that we feast on) can thrive.

Oh? So the ultimate purpose of the entire animal kingdom is to support human existence? Despite the fact that there are entire food systems we are not a part of, of course.

And what, as I mentioned earlier, about animals that eat humans? They don't seem particularly concerned that it is they who should be facilitating us.

[BlindKitty]

Well, it's not like every animal is meant for immediate consumption by people. Some are meant to give us leather/milk/fur/wool/whatever, for example. But more importantly, they are created in sort of ecological equilibrium, so some of them are meant to uphold this equilibrium so other animals (that we feast on) can thrive.

Oh? So the ultimate purpose of the entire animal kingdom is to support human existence? Despite the fact that there are entire food systems we are not a part of, of course.

And what, as I mentioned earlier, about animals that eat humans? They don't seem particularly concerned that it is they who should be facilitating us.

Well, seems to be higher purpose that 'just evolved and that's it', anyway, so I would probably take it if I were animal kingdom. Also, what is a food system that doesn't tie into the major ecosystem? I don't mean it only as A eats B, B eats C, C gets eaten by human; all the animals and plants are important to the biodiversity and... stuff. I don't know, ask some ecological people around here. But since it is generally seemed as bad thing to make species go extinct, I presume they all fulfill some role in ecosystem? Or is just for the sake of 100% completionists of real life that we try to save the endangered species?

Also, I see no problem with animals eating humans. Actually, we are perfectly capable of eating any animal I know that can eat us... They just part of the ecosystem. The fact that it was planned by God to be a system to allow us to survive and thrive doesn't mean it can't have traps. Especially since we got kicked out of Eden, where we were not eaten by anything.

[Cheeetar]

I don't know, and you would need to ask God for that.

Why claim that god intended animals to be eaten if you then go on to say that nobody can know gods will?