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Author Topic: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp Alpha related. ALPHA FINISHED. Go to Beta page  (Read 97515 times)

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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #930 on: December 26, 2014, 09:38:49 am »

We lack of the ability to make mortar and pestle in the craftwasp to build Herbalist Lab.
Also that workshop requires a science discovery, which I think wasps cannot do (and the manual doesn't mention this).
Also, since we have Furniture Workshop to make rooms sets, we could use also a new clothier to make cloth sets.
Also... they just came two Priests of the Depths in the last migration wave (alongside with a queen!). It's a good thing? What's their purpose?
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #931 on: December 26, 2014, 11:37:12 am »

We lack of the ability to make mortar and pestle in the craftwasp to build Herbalist Lab.
Also that workshop requires a science discovery, which I think wasps cannot do (and the manual doesn't mention this).
Also, since we have Furniture Workshop to make rooms sets, we could use also a new clothier to make cloth sets.
Also... they just came two Priests of the Depths in the last migration wave (alongside with a queen!). It's a good thing? What's their purpose?

I'll fix it, and will also add custom buildings which don't require scientific discoveries

Sure, adding cloth sets should be easy

They can perform summons and make packs more quickly, so if you do a lot of summons they will save you time.
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #932 on: December 26, 2014, 01:44:41 pm »

I'm aloud on my comp for a bit, this comes up in the errorlog when i hit e to embark
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_hivemind_wasps.txt"
SPIDER_WASP:Gastroliths seem to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
SPIDER_BIRD:Gastroliths seem to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity JOTUNFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity HORNEDFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity NIGHTWINGFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity BROCK_FD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity PANDASHIFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity RAPTOR_FD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity HARPYFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/creature_hivemind_wasps.txt"
SPIDER_WASP:Gastroliths seem to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
SPIDER_BIRD:Gastroliths seem to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity JOTUNFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity HORNEDFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity NIGHTWINGFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity BROCK_FD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity PANDASHIFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity RAPTOR_FD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity HARPYFD
Unrecognized entity trapcomp token: ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE


I've always hated menacing spikes and now i've got a reason to!

as for the menacing spikes, i don't know. have you overwritten something? it seems like your folder is missing some files


This menacing spikes isn't you guys -- this is an issue with the Fortress Defense races in MDF, they all have entity enabled this vanilla trap component ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE that has been removed from MDF, so it throws the error.

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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #933 on: December 26, 2014, 02:06:33 pm »

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[ITEM_TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE_UPGRADE_ONE]
[NAME:spike:spikes]
[ADJECTIVE:sharpened]

[ITEM_TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE_UPGRADE_TWO]
[NAME:spike:spikes]
[ADJECTIVE:serrated]

Yep, pick one. Sharpened spikes (the normal menacing spikes), that do deep cuts, or serrated spikes, which do larger cuts with more bleeding, but more shallow.
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #934 on: December 26, 2014, 02:35:28 pm »

We lack of the ability to make mortar and pestle in the craftwasp to build Herbalist Lab.
Also that workshop requires a science discovery, which I think wasps cannot do (and the manual doesn't mention this).
Also, since we have Furniture Workshop to make rooms sets, we could use also a new clothier to make cloth sets.
Also... they just came two Priests of the Depths in the last migration wave (alongside with a queen!). It's a good thing? What's their purpose?

A second queen? Shouldn't that lead to a sort of civil war?
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Or you could just let the children roam free and natural selection will take care of them.
I'm now picturing an elf wrestler trying to suplex my battlements.

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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #935 on: December 26, 2014, 02:36:53 pm »

yes, if they view each other they will start fighting. not a full scale civil war anymore, but there will be collateral. with that being said, a crafty player may be able to keep 2 or more queens, but it requires careful planning.
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #936 on: December 26, 2014, 05:27:10 pm »

 Will the wasps be able to identify which queen laid which individual through smell and pheromones?
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Or you could just let the children roam free and natural selection will take care of them.
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #937 on: December 26, 2014, 05:33:46 pm »

no, unfortunately. after all, most hives will have one queen, so it will be easy most of the times :)
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #938 on: December 26, 2014, 05:35:30 pm »

Will the wasps be able to identify which queen laid which individual through smell and pheromones?

If it makes you feel any better it wouldn't be to hard to implement. The only problem is "What's the point?"
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #939 on: December 26, 2014, 05:41:11 pm »

Anyway I hadn't a crash of queens since I hadn't a queen at the time, so free queen for me (and room of thinking a way of how to use more queens together).
More testing ahead.

Will the wasps be able to identify which queen laid which individual through smell and pheromones?

If it makes you feel any better it wouldn't be to hard to implement. The only problem is "What's the point?"
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #940 on: December 26, 2014, 10:56:21 pm »

 Idk if this has alredy been suggested, but will specific individuals of other species have allergies to stings?
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Or you could just let the children roam free and natural selection will take care of them.
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #941 on: December 27, 2014, 01:03:51 am »

Idk if this has alredy been suggested, but will specific individuals of other species have allergies to stings?
that'd be awesome
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #942 on: December 27, 2014, 07:32:48 pm »

new update

the herbalist should now be buildable. i also added the own metallurgist (the same, but it most definitely won't require a discovery to construct) building to be on the safe side. i removed the reactions to unmake alloys. finally, i added cloth sets in the craftswasp.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9734

the last thing on the list for now is the getting started page. i'll write a tutorial instead of a few tips, and any suggestions about it would be welcome.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2014, 07:35:31 pm by than402 »
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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #943 on: December 28, 2014, 07:00:03 am »

Idk if this has alredy been suggested, but will specific individuals of other species have allergies to stings?
that'd be awesome
Sounds like something to implement in the eventual disease rewrite, though the waspen stings would need a time delay since in wasp mode they won't live long enough for it to matter. But in other race modes it'd be a very real threat for at least civilians.

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Re: ☼Hive☼ Everything Hivewasp related
« Reply #944 on: December 28, 2014, 10:18:22 am »

Grower also lack of Wasp Striker reaction: talons are here, strickers not.
Also, leatherwork cannot build torso armor, just the clothing one and for every other equip slot it works well.
It just lacks the Leather scale mail.

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It's also the time to change in the pet manual (https://sites.google.com/site/hivemanual2/pets) the Hive Thrall description:
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Hive Thrall: A husk infested with
Price: N/A
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