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[Deon]

W A S T E L A N D      C H R O N I C L E S
The Brotherhood

Civilizations:
- Brotherhood: The playable civilization. Your goal is to unite people together, shelter them from the outside world and reclaim the old technology to preserve and use it.

- Wastelanders: Hardened people who live in ruins of old cities or build their own communities. They may be quick on a trigger but they can be good trading partners.
- Tribals: wild humans which resorted to an animalistic way of life. They have hunting parties patrolling their territories and a shaman is governing above all their activities.
- Ghouls: mutated wretched humanoids who still have a spark of humanity. They are unreliable allies but they are still willing to trade for tools and provision.

- Raiders: brutal lawless men who will willingly raid, rob and kill your people.
- Grunts: a race of genetically engineered humans who consider themselves to be the only proper humans and try to eradicate all the lesser "humanoids" or enslave them.
- Dregs: twisted human-like creatures who are unable to talk or use complex tools, yet they are very sneaky and willing to steal your shinies.

Civilizations have custom descriptor shapes for engravings, images and symbols.
Civilizations also have custom noble positions.
Maps:
- A map of North America (now with appropriate northern pole).


Weapons and armor:

- Knives, combat knives, clubs, spears, sledgehammers, hacksaws, machetes etc.
- Bows and crossbows (both are "bow" skill now).
- Rifles and ammo (rifles cannot be crafted, you need to loot them or trade for them). Ammo can be found in scrap piles

- New types of clothes and armor: jumpsuits and underwear, combat armor and greaves, jackets and hats, goggles and caps, t-shirts and jeans etc.

Flora
- Some pre-war trees and plants survived and can be used for farming.
- New post-apocalyptic plants and mutated species of trees.
- Scrap piles litter the landscape and can be gathered and processed in Scrapyard.
- New drinks, mills and edible parts processing which can be performed through the Farmers workshop (i.e. you need to thresh wheat before you can do something with it to get the seeds).

Fauna
- A lot of mutated and some surviving pre-war creatures.
- Unimaginable mutants found in "evil" areas only.
- Pre-war creatures with different castes (foul, two-headed, premium etc).
- Dogs which hunt vermin (and sometimes have two heads as well).

Geology
- Simplified ore types.
- Less types of metal available. Tin and the like are long mined out.
- Concrete remains of buildings in the soil with scrap and glass in them.
- New uranium/plutonium ores (no industry setup for them yet).

Adventure mode basic crafting:
- Built on the "Wanderer" mod.

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[Deon]

This is just the beta release.

- Rifle is currently overpowered versus unarmored opponents but it is easy to counter with combat armor/greaves/helmet.
- Currently just one custom workshop "scrapyard" which turns scrap logs into metal bars and rarely ammo.
- You need to trade for rifles or loot them from enemies.
- Megabeasts, curses and night creatures are not in yet.
- Robots are not in yet.

I need to go to sleep because it's almost 7 AM here, I will make sure to keep updating it and bring the old complex research and crafting back.

[Meph]

Tiny tipo in the beginning:

- Brotherhood: The playable civilization.

Are you restarting your Fallout mod with 40.x with this, or will it become very different from it?

[Deon]

Tiny tipo in the beginning:

- Brotherhood: The playable civilization.

Are you restarting your Fallout mod with 40.x with this, or will it become very different from it?

Thanks, I was very sleepy when I typed the description . You can call it a reboot, because the only thing in common right now are the creatures which I did not want to rewrite from scratch. Everything else is already written from scratch, and the production workflow will be different. And of course I will remake megabeasts and night creatures. And we now play as a "brotherhood", like Brotherhood of steel. No more "vault dwellers", and the brotherhood has barely any locations in the world. And with the new values and biome settings it's possible to make all the different locations and worldgen interactrions much more fun.

[StupidElves]

PTW.

I am a little disappointed that we don't play as vault dweller's anymore. But, hey. The Brotherhood of Steel should be nice.

[Deon]

It's only because "vault dweller" is a really long name and I just liked the "brotherhood" feel more . Your main goal will be to find old holodiscs and research or reverse engineer a fairly advanced stuff, so it makes sense to be an organisation like BoS.

I mean come on, you will have initiates, scribes, paladins etc. Which reminds me that I need to update the positions to represent it properly. I will try to release an update today.

[StupidElves]

Well, that should be fun.

Also, question. If there's a mod that's meant to just add creatures to a world, will those creatures be compatible with this?

[Amuys]

Well I hope vault dwellers still exist in some form.  Like being limited to mountain hall sites.
I hope there will be abandoned brotherhood forts to reclaim.

[Ruludos]

I played very little of your Fallout mod, but with a revamped .40 release I'm finally tempted enough to start playing.

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Well, that should be fun.

Also, question. If there's a mod that's meant to just add creatures to a world, will those creatures be compatible with this?

Deon hasn't posted yet, so I'll just say that besides some changes to make way for standard materials the vanilla material, tissue and body plans look mostly intact. If you want to add something you'll probably need to make a few minor edits to the material templates to get the right quality levels.
While we're discussing it, Deon, what is your stance on user-created content? I'm contemplating some additions (although I imagine a lot of it is covered in the vast amount of content you'll be porting over to this mod) and want to know how you'd prefer that sort of thing be done.

Well I hope vault dwellers still exist in some form.  Like being limited to mountain hall sites.
I hope there will be abandoned brotherhood forts to reclaim.

Abandoned and reclaimable sites are hardcoded, and in my own generated world there was a site available. As far as vault dwellers vs the Brotherhood go, I like playing as the Brotherhood.

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A strange thing I noticed is that hacksaws are pathetically cheap; a copper hacksaw is worth four urists, while a copper pickaxe is worth two hundred. Intentional?
I absolutely love all the mutated castes wild animals come with. It's a very flavorful addition that doesn't get in the way much.
There appears to be a generic grass growing in the caverns, rather than some sort of mold.
It's all a bit barebones, but you made that clear and you're working on updating it, so no worries there.

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This is just a lot of nitpicky bullshit, but it bothers me a bit. From what you said it sounded like you were finishing this up after an all-nighter, so I don't blame you in the slightest.

From the Chimera description:
"Chimera specie is an arificial hybrid of a dog and a black bear."
Did you mean 'this chimera species,' implying there's more than one planned?

From the Dog description:
"This dog's looks a bit crazy, its fur is ragged and dirty."
Should probably be just 'dog looks,' unless you wanted to say 'this dog is crazy.'

From the Raccoon description:
"It is nocturnal and found in not very harsh areas.  It is a curious animal and have been known to steal from civilized areas."
It's a bit awkward to say 'found in not very harsh areas.' Wouldn't it be easier to say 'found in calmer areas?' Also, the tense in that second part is a bit off; 'and has been' would be more consistent.

From the Horse description:
"A quarduped creature which reminds horses from the book, except for a shape of the head."
A lot of confusion in that sentence. '...which resembles the horses from old books, except for the shape...' would be a lot better.

You still have many references to Fallout lore in various creature descriptions. Mutant creatures still make mention of FEV and the Master, while Spore Plants mention the Vaults and the Great War (which has been called 'the Event' in other places). Did you still intend to have the FEV as a part of your setting?

While we're talking about Spore Plants, their description is frighteningly long for a simple creature. Just referring to them as mutant flytraps would be enough, I'd think, without mentioning all of their history and hunting mechanisms.

The radroach description is a long runon sentence. It would be best to break it down with a few sentences.

Wanamingos have [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:0:1]. I assume this isn't a typo; does an underground depth of 0 point to caves or some other feature?

From the Brother description:
"...in isolationist communities, they survived..."
Should make it a full stop with a period there instead of a comma.

From the Raider description:
"An outcast of the civilization, this..."
The civilization? Civilization in general would be better, as there's far more than one.

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Now that you've abandoned the Fallout title, are you interested in branching out and adding content that isn't from the Fallout setting? (It will be a while before you can consider adding more, of course; as you've said there's plenty of work to be done converting the .34 mod.) Lycaeon (the creator of the pony apocalype mod) didn't want to deviate from the source materials, and I was interested in your own standpoint.

[Deon]

Phew, sorry, I got a bit ill yesterday so I just went to bed after work. I will try to patch this and that today while I am at work .

@Ruludos: thank you very much for the feedback. It's very useful for me.

what is your stance on user-created content? I'm contemplating some additions (although I imagine a lot of it is covered in the vast amount of content you'll be porting over to this mod) and want to know how you'd prefer that sort of thing be done.

I am always happy when others wish to help. Old Genesis mod has more than 50% of its content added or tweaked by Tomitapio. Fallout mod has most of its robots designed by JediaKyrol etc. I never reject a friendly helping hand.

A strange thing I noticed is that hacksaws are pathetically cheap; a copper hacksaw is worth four urists, while a copper pickaxe is worth two hundred. Intentional?

The price is calculated on the fly. Generic hacksaws are pretty shitty as weapons, I guess this is why the game makes them so cheap. A chainsaw will be a better axe-skill weapon.

There appears to be a generic grass growing in the caverns, rather than some sort of mold.

Yep. I did not add proper grass for evil and underground areas yet. I just did not get to it, I was in a hurry to release a barebones version to attract some interested people who can help with ideas and participation.

Typos and grammar

Thanks, I will make sure to fix it all. As I said the creatures were mostly ported over from Fallout mod, which explains the direct references to Fallout lore. Also it explains the typos. I am not a perfect english speaker/user now, and back then I had a worse knowledge of the english .

Now that you've abandoned the Fallout title, are you interested in branching out and adding content that isn't from the Fallout setting?

Well, I already renamed very fallout-specific names like Yao Guai, and I already have stuff from other settings (like Skags from borderlands, or The Thing and Xenomorphs which will be the new reworked night creatures), so I am totally okay with new content. It will make the game more interesting.

[Amuys]

Please tell me that the supermutants and vault dwellers still exist as non player entities.
Are all the plants done btw? I see a lot of them got taken out it seems.

[Deon]

"Grunts" are supermutants. They are not as huge but they are supposed to be more skilled.

I can definitely put "Vault dwellers" in as cave-dwelling entities, however making them trade partners sounds wrong. Most of the vaults were isolationist, and usually when they ended up being opened something bad happened to them or they simply left and stopped being Vault Dwellers.

[JediaKyrol]

I'm trying to update robots...but still have trouble with the new stuff...like the gait system applied to monopods...I really need to read up on all Toady's new junk.  Most of the stuff still works, so Deon...you'll prolly have them all synched up before I figure out what the poop I'm doing.

Oh yeah...I noticed the worlds now have historically genned treasure vaults...is there any way to edit these to put people in them?  Then we could go all Enclave in adventure mode...busting in, gunning everyone down, and stealing all their toys.

[Deon]

Nope, those vaults contain demon-related stuff with randomly generated monsters. I've tried to find out if it's possible to use them for sites, but no luck. I really hope someone from DFHack community realizes how else can we use those Vaults.

[Meph]

You can at least use lethosors localisation patcher to rename them to something more fitting. The randomly generated monsters I mean.