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[Flow]

Hello!

So, I've disabled the blog and removed the references to it from 1d4chan (hopefully they won't get added back in) and here's explaining why. TL;DR at the bottom.

First up, I've immensely enjoyed the project so far, with some minor exceptions, and will probably continue to work on it in the future.

However, I will no longer be publicising the project or releasing it online. The reasons for this are threefold:

First, I do not have any sort of stable schedule as of last week with various freelance work taking up inordinate amounts of my time.

Second, I am increasingly afraid of legal intervention despite my attempts to distance myself from any copyright claims, also leading onto the next.

Third, it has become increasingly clear to me throughout the course of this project that people just don't care about things that aren't blatantly 40k. And I'm unwilling to make things that are blatantly 40k, beause I don't want to end up ruining my life in legal battles over something I was only doing to benefit others anyway. I attempted to run the project in as generic a manner as possible in order to avoid any copyright problems, and was continually met by e-mail and forum posts of complaints that I wasn't staying close enough to 40k lore. I even tried to spell out that I was specifically avoiding copyright, something that could well have ruined the entire purpose of avoiding the copyright in the first place, and it seemed to be forgotten within a day.

I really appreciate the help of everyone that's chipped in so far to the Chapter Master mod - Mukip who made some fantastic art, Smokazzi with the excellent music, Skeletus with all the naming convention help and Guardsman for his excellent art contributions. Obviously I make no claims to any of the assets put out in the recent versions - for anyone who wants to take up this mantle in the future please make good use of them.

I've come to realise that this project is impossible. Not because it's too difficult, or because the gaming requirements are too high, but because the project seems to belong to everyone. Everyone has their idea of what it should and will be, and the project will only survive if public support is sufficient to drive an individual to risk court battles just to satisfy a gaming itch. In this case, I didin't feel like the public support was there, and that's fine, it just wasn't to be.

Within two something months I'm pretty pleased with the progress I made, and if anyone is a C++ dev and wants to geti n touch with me, I'd be willing to consider passing along the current source - it really isn't too much work away from playable engine. However I will be completing it privately for personal and friends use only.

Good luck to whoever's next, may this be another notch on the Chapter Master belt of failed attempts.

TL;DR: Too afraid of lawyers, not enough reason to work despite them, gave it a good shot though.

[nenjin]

It's legit. It's essentially the same reason Duke quit. In the end it's too much work to do an adequate work around that makes everyone happy. Either it's not 40k and just a framework for people to drape 40k over, or it's 40k and someone is putting their livelihood on the line.

Point in fact though, this is the thread for the 40k Chapter Master game. If you really wanted support for IAS, trying to co-opt it out of a thread full of people wanting 40k was probably bound to be a disappointment. You can probably still carry on with IAS with full creative control and no liability....as long as you really commit to it as a standalone project rather than the ghost of what might yet be one day Chapter Master 2.0.

Put another way, you can't really expect the support of 40k fans for something that isn't 40k.

[veryangryenglishman]

That's too bad, but thanks for the attempt! Those are all good reasons to stop.

[Tack]

I don't understand the issues surrounding IP.
Just use seven proxies.


- In srs, sad to hear it, good luck doing it solo, and if IAS ends up releasing as a standalone later on that'd be just swell.

[LordBaal]

Aw men that sucks. Really hard. I would advice you to not fear any legal claims, as it is you are very distanced from 40k. And not care of people not caring if it's explicitly a 40k game, once a mod comes out they'll go frantic.

[SkeletusAurelius]

Perfectly logical reason Flow. I think i can speak for all of us when i say we wish you luck on whatever you're doing next.


Still would like to see how the finished product looks, as i put some effort into it after all.

[Kylerace]

Hey I'm just wondering if there's a way for me to mod the game and possibly even help contribute in the future. I love how this game is the only one of its kind and I want to see how I can edit the mod the game and change it.

[Retropunch]

TL;DR: Too afraid of lawyers, not enough reason to work despite them, gave it a good shot though.

I respect that the decision is yours to take, but I'd like to point out some things and beg you to reconsider.

Whilst yes, some people do want this to be only 40k related - as nenjin said, you are posting on the Chapter master thread(!!!). Start one for 'moddable space battle simulator' and you'll get hundreds of people wanting it for creating their own universes (and obviously their favorites from books/films/games).

Secondly, lawyers are really, really nothing to be afraid of in this case - not even remotely. If you don't ship it with any art or content that was made by or for GW then there is absolutely nothing they can do. That's not a presumption - that is legal fact. Think about the amount of 'space marines/troopers' in sci-fi today - they don't all have to wrangle with GWs lawyers!

There's no way they can bring you to court for any of this either; lets say they went absolutely insane and decided that generic space marines were now their IP, the most they could do is give you a cease and desist. That doesn't give you a record or besmirch you in any way - you'd just have to stop and that'd be the end of it. That'd never happen, but if you're still worried about legal issues PM me and I'd be happy to take you through it all from the very top.

Seriously, just start an IAS thread with no mention of CM and you'll get a hell of a lot of support from all corners of the gaming world!

[SkeletusAurelius]

So, is the game deadified? Has anyone heard from Journier?

[Cruxador]

So, is the game deadified? Has anyone heard from Journier?

It was dead since Duke dropped it. All that remains, and all that has remained since then, is hope. But it was two years between when the game was first pitched and when someone picked it up. Hope, even when she rides alone, never dies.

[nenjin]

She may, however, spend an unpleasant eternity in the Warp.

[Journier]

So, is the game deadified? Has anyone heard from Journier?

you have heard from me. the game is being worked on still, albeit very slowly now. Programmer burn out is a thing with this engine.

[puke]

 

[kayosetsu]

So, is the game deadified? Has anyone heard from Journier?

you have heard from me. the game is being worked on still, albeit very slowly now. Programmer burn out is a thing with this engine.

You're our only hope! Promise to release whatever you've done should you ever decide to up and quit please? lmao

[Ekaton]

Is this game playable in its present state?