Extend. Larger post hopefully later today.
If the extend fails to go through. Flabort, you are not going to tie up the vote and cause a No Lynch. If you are unlynchable as you claim, you'd survive it.
Part of the reason I didn't vote varee. Who I don't suspect in the slightest anyways.
Fine, Jack, if you're right about me being scum, then what does that say about Cheeetar?
First I try to bus him and then I try to distance myself is how I would see it from your flawed perspective.
flabort: I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Please clarify.
If you think I'm scum, if I flip scum, then you'll have to go back and reevaluate all my interactions.
It would be easy to assume, I assume, from your perspective that what I did with Cheeetar was a scum strategy.
Which is why if I ever die without being revived, whether I'm town or scum, I want you to lynch Cheeetar; right after Shakerag if I'm town. However, that will likely never happen unless there's a hard counter to my powers, so I don't think it will ever be an issue.
Again, early game lack of participation was out of my hands. I was distracted by the whole camping issue, I had no time to knuckle down and focus. You'll also notice my activity was down from earlier in the CYOM of NQT's during this period, I think. I was still active, but I was talking more about queued actions and stuff.
You were able to be active enough to throw a bunch of posts around and answer questions, but not enough to do much scumhunting after your short Cheeetar engagement?
I was sneaking away from the IRL stress and activity to read and post. Most of the time my absence was noticed before I could do any scumhunting or thinking.
How dare Shakerag not be a weekend player!?!
OK, so shakerag's absences are excusable. But by that logic, no-body being absent matters. Jiokuy being absent doesn't matter. And if low activity doesn't matter, high activity doesn't matter. And by that logic, my low activity followed by high activity doesn't matter. I still get to think that shakerag's active lurking if you think that that matters.
...what is this? There's a difference between a sub-24 hour absence or weekend absence (which are quite common and expected) and an extended absence (which is lurking), and there's a difference between posting content and not posting content. This bit from you is, to be frank, nonsense.
If that's what you think this is, then that's what it is to you. I still believe his absences were long enough to matter.
Is there a reason you're spinning a non-issue to look as bad as possible and omitting an inconvenient fact that would interfere with your case?
Does everything in that post have to be an issue? I was going over everything he's done. Not everything he's done is bad. But he has done bad things, and is pinging "scum" like crazy to me.
...You just said the gaps were an issue. You just argued that an effort to excuse those absences was wrong (I think). In addition, the weekend gap and the rolefishing accusation you specifically emphasized with italics. Why, if not to attack Shakerag?
Yeah, the absences were a note of interest; they indicated that he was far less involved than most of the other players.
But you had quoted several other "issues" with that question, and you could have easily been talking about any or all of those. I was wondering why you thought I was spinning those as issues.
Now that I know only those two issues matter to you, I can answer better.
Yes, the gaps are an issue. And I can't see you, as a player, rolefishing in any way near approaching the way I do; subtle or otherwise. So I'm quite surprised at both of you for that not, and it was a
very interesting point to note.
And? Again, why haven't you been trying to improve your read/get evidence? Why go beyond abandoning a flawed-looking case and outright abandon your suspect? Why leave him so completely that you even forgot about your vote?
Because he's not my prime suspect.
So? I understand that Cheeetar is no longer your prime suspect. Merely your second-strongest suspect. So, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you have strategic reasons for focusing just on your prime suspect and avoiding your second-strongest suspect. But again, why, during the extended period after you completely abandoned Cheeetar but before I voted you, did you not try to gain more information on him? Why so completely abandon him?
Will "I forgot about it" work? Obviously I remember now, and it's an issue for you, but I forgot completely during that period. As stated before, the stress of IRL getting ready for camping was giving me little time, including time to think. So I forgot.
Because what can I do to improve my read or get evidence without being accused of something else now?
Do not use me or your other attackers as an excuse not to improve your read or get evidence. Why do you care so much about how your attackers would view efforts to scumhunt? Why are you letting that interfere with your scumhunting?
Why is this specific case needling at you so much? At this point I'm just not asking him questions because it's provoking you, and I'm starting to suspect a connection between him and you.
So, anyways, done with that, I guess now I'll start asking him questions too, then. Bottom of this post. If it's not there, yell at me.
Oh, and I even see an opportunity to tie the vote and cause a no-lynch. I won't do that, though, because I value town's right to a flip. However, you won't get one if you continue to vote me anyways, so *shrug* why not pursue some target that can die? You can't kill a potato. Grind it up? It just grows from a piece of an eye. And that plant creates more potatoes. I'm afraid there's no point to voting me.
Alright, I understand the non-flipping, reviving stuff, but what do you mean by the "that plant creates more potatoes" part? PPE: Alright.
Looks like you noticed the answer and just didn't remove the question here.
One last thing: any response to Shakerag's recent post about you? (I can see how you might have missed it, with it being the last post of a 25 or 50 post page).
Sure. "Yes, I do say that vote analysis has a use even here on bay 12. No, I don't believe you were busy with 'the job thing' over the weekend."
Not changing my vote: quite late in the day and I'm not doing last-minute vote screwy stuff.
Fine.
And now I'm stressed because of other IRL issued. I idolized that guy, OK? 
Robin Williams, I assume?
Yes. I've been bouncing between anger and grief and denial like a pinball for the last few minutes. Do you know just how many movies with him in them I've watched? Good movies? Movies where I didn't even recognize him for the first half hour or longer because he's that good?
Now who's the next best comedian? Will Ferrel? Yuk. Disgusting.
I would rather have Robin. Even if he does a horrible job.
Shakerag I'm going to get lynched today. I will revive. What is your emotional reaction to this? Also, who else do you suspect of being scum?
Cheeetar What is the best way for you to win? Specifically you. Doesn't matter what your alignment is, what is the best thing that could happen right now, or later in days 2 or three, that would lead to you winning? How do you plan on bringing that about?
PPE:
flabort:
OK, so shakerag's absences are excusable. But by that logic, no-body being absent matters. Jiokuy being absent doesn't matter. And if low activity doesn't matter, high activity doesn't matter. And by that logic, my low activity followed by high activity doesn't matter. I still get to think that shakerag's active lurking if you think that that matters.
How do you even go from one person having an excusable absence to absences don't matter? I can't even begin to follow your reasoning for that, let alone the rest of the paragraph.
However, you won't get one if you continue to vote me anyways, so *shrug* why not pursue some target that can die? You can't kill a potato. Grind it up? It just grows from a piece of an eye. And that plant creates more potatoes. I'm afraid there's no point to voting me.
Oh well, gee, I guess we'll just not vote flabort for the rest of the game because he claimed unlynchable/a resurrect. You realize that these kinds of claims never end well, right?
My reasoning is that if I have to excuse one absence, then I have to excuse others, at which point I have to excuse them all, at which point they don't matter any more. Which as the logic then follows, means that Jiokuy being absent doesn't matter because no absence matters because I've excused them all.
And if absence doesn't matter, then the lack of absence, or high activity, doesn't matter. Which means that neither states of activity that Jack was saying I had matters. Which meant that Jack's point is invalid. So if he still considered that point valid, then absence and activity do matter, which would mean that the idea that I had to excuse all absence was incorrect, which meant that the idea that I had to excuse YOUR absence was incorrect.
Yeah, I know that claiming unlynchable never ends well when it's true. And claiming a revive does turn out OK sometimes; I am aware that it's not often.
However, what I said was that my revival power makes me effectively unlynchable. Different thing. Doesn't mean your point is wrong. But it means you need a workaround to kill me. So go ahead and vote me, you'll see I'm right, but I am warning you that you're wasting the vote. It will end well for me, that I claimed. Even if you do try to lynch me once or twice.
It would, however, work out better for the town if you lynched someone who was able to die less then infinite times. Because you'd get a roleflip. You don't want the only flip to be scum's nightkill, right?
Ah, well, as Jack said, it's too late for vote screwyness.
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