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[Tiruin]

Tiruin:

Also scum don't have a kill. Are you in the game, sir?

How do you know?

MOAR PFP

The mafia don't get a mafiakill by default, but they do have a chat in which they can discuss (among other things) how they'll build their powers.

Because it would be REAL silly if Jiokuy just unveiled a rather lot by assumption/implication.

[flabort]

Toaster Well, obviously I'm still fishing around for powers and information, just not as much as usual because I always get in trouble for it. That doesn't make me... Oh, I get it. You're saying I'm scum because I said I wasn't fishing and because I said fishing means I'm town, haha. I didn't make that connection at first.
No, I have the potential to be a jerk, but I'm not scum.

I accept that you believe that my vote has no value used that way. But has DS responded to any of the questions asked of him since I did that? Such as the thirty I threw his way when I voted? No. So I think that the dice knew who I should vote.

PPE:

Also, a 40K or Battletech theme game would be amazing.[/thread derail]

[thread derail]WANT!!!!!!!!![/thread derail]

Even just a fighting mech flavored mafia game would be amazing.

Tiruin:

Also scum don't have a kill. Are you in the game, sir?

How do you know?

MOAR PFP

The mafia don't get a mafiakill by default, but they do have a chat in which they can discuss (among other things) how they'll build their powers.

Because it would be REAL silly if Jiokuy just unveiled a rather lot by assumption/implication.

Note the Cyan. They can still buy a kill and probably have, so they probably have a kill.

[Tiruin]

Adding my Extend vote to the pile. This will need some serious sorting though. Will do a more complex analysis in ~6 hours.

So we have two players claiming masks.
One of who has been hit by a scum changeling. (not confirmed, but seems probable)
He's given us a pretty strong lead on figuring out who might have targeted him, but it could also be part of some meta-plot.
(if he is scum and one of his scumbuddies claims an information role. Nahh it's too early for that, it would be dangerous for them to implicate 2/3 of the scumteam in the D1 Mys-lynch)
With the above as my logic I am inclined to believe him for now.

Everyone: So what are the advantages to claiming masks?

Tolyk, Tirun, Toony, and Toaster:In your opinion what are the chances that he's faking the lover to direct the scum-kill to Toaster?

One more note, in Supernatural when I was sure I was going to die I acted a lot like Scripten is acting now (I think). I don't entirely know where I'm going with this, but I'm inclined to believe he fears for his life. (although as a tree-stump for all intents and purposes I don't know if the scum would waste a kill on him anymore)

Note in question.

[TolyK]

.. I've lost the last 5 post if conversation. Or rather, their context.
I'm still surprised sum haven't killed yet. That probably queued it up to be 5 minutes before the lynch or something. Speaking of which...
NQT, can we shorten? And would that possibly throw queued actions out of whack?

[notquitethere]

TolyK

NQT, can we shorten? And would that possibly throw queued actions out of whack?

You shorten by hammering. Actions are only queued for the beginning of days, so it wouldn't throw anything out of whack.

[flabort]

Tolyk, Tirun, Toony, and Toaster:In your opinion what are the chances that he's faking the lover to direct the scum-kill to Toaster?

Note in question.

As in, the one kill that the scum are allowed. They don't start with it, they have to buy a kill, but scum are only allowed to use one kill. So scum probably DO have a kill, but flaws or something else is interfering with their ability to use it.
Yes, you're right that they don't have a group-kill. But when Jiokuy said Scum-kill, he meant the kill that scum bought.

[4maskwolf]

As in, the one kill that the scum are allowed. They don't start with it, they have to buy a kill, but scum are only allowed to use one kill. So scum probably DO have a kill, but flaws or something else is interfering with their ability to use it.
Yes, you're right that they don't have a group-kill. But when Jiokuy said Scum-kill, he meant the kill that scum bought.

And you know this how?

[flabort]

As in, the one kill that the scum are allowed. They don't start with it, they have to buy a kill, but scum are only allowed to use one kill. So scum probably DO have a kill, but flaws or something else is interfering with their ability to use it.
Yes, you're right that they don't have a group-kill. But when Jiokuy said Scum-kill, he meant the kill that scum bought.

And you know this how?

"Probably bought". Sorry, but can't it be assumed that the scum bought a kill?
I mean, a scum team with no kill is pretty worthless, right? Unless they're all changelings banking on stealing from a Vig, or figure they can get a kill later in some other way. Such as, oh, I don't know, Varee if he's lying? 6 points, that's all it takes to buy a kill, so maybe they were planning on sapping everyone, but there is no recycle power, so...

Oh, yeah, there are THREE of them. Between the three of them, they have 15 points that they probably spent, 30 if you count flaws! That's more than enough for ONE of them to buy a kill, so I'm fairly certain that they bought a kill.

[TolyK]

I think it's pretty damn logical, unless of course the scum team decided to do a changeling massacre.
Damn, that would be really, REALLY annoying. And possibly a great setup, if you add nonvoter to the mix.

I really should've thought more deeply about my own setup... :p

Ppe. Damn I was ninja'd!

[ToonyMan]

Toony:  How is starting with a lot of points scummy?

It's more about his set-up. You should know that if you pick nonvoter then everybody will realize Day 1 unless you're lurking scum. Why inflict that heat upon yourself, unless you're amassing points for your team? I don't see the scum changeling-ing 4mask!

Everyone voting/suspecting 4mask:  Why?  All I see is arguments they're colluding because Varee asked 4mask about changeling, which to be some seriously circumstantial evidence.

That's not my argument.

[4maskwolf]

Toony:  How is starting with a lot of points scummy?

It's more about his set-up. You should know that if you pick nonvoter then everybody will realize Day 1 unless you're lurking scum. Why inflict that heat upon yourself, unless you're amassing points for your team? I don't see the scum changeling-ing 4mask!

Yeah, 'cause they don't know what my color is, now do they?  It's not quite so simple to target people, if you hadn't noticed.  And really?  You're asking me "why inflict that heat on yourself"?  The guy who out of nowhere fakeclaimed survivor in a BYOR as part of an overly-complicated gambit.  You're asking ME that question?  I'm fine with the spotlight.  I can take the heat that nonvoter brings with it.  So I picked it, because I'm not afraid of a little pressure, a little notice.  That, and it isn't hard to get rid of for me, since I have self-cleanse.
((yes, I know, bad example, I was scum that game.  I'm just trying to make a point)).

[Varee]

@wolf
Is your clense swlf targeting or are you depending on magnetic?

I might stir up some dust but i hope we can get something out of this

[4maskwolf]

@wolf
Is your clense swlf targeting or are you depending on magnetic?

I might stir up some dust but i hope we can get something out of this

self-targeting, it removed my magnetic flaw.  I stated this a while back.

[Teneb]

Request Replacement

Sorry, but I got a lot of work dumped on me without any warning and I barely have time to rest, much less play mafia.

[Toaster]

ToonyMan:

Toony:  How is starting with a lot of points scummy?

It's more about his set-up. You should know that if you pick nonvoter then everybody will realize Day 1 unless you're lurking scum. Why inflict that heat upon yourself, unless you're amassing points for your team? I don't see the scum changeling-ing 4mask!

That sounds like a crock.  You know damn well that the scum couldn't have directly targeted him, unless they had a peek army going on.  Who cares if he picked nonvoter or not?  I doubt anyone who did it doesn't have a plan for working around it.

Like me.  (yep, I'm a nonvoter too!)