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It makes me sad. So very very sad.

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[Gnorm]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

Someone mentioned earlier an entirely gay race, maybe something like succubi, or some sort of demon race.

Succubi have are not typically portrayed as homosexual,—to my knowledge—but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be an interesting thing to implement. Some sort of creature that sneaks into the fort as if it was a vampire.

[Azukash]

Possibly an entirely female race that abducts male children to be used as a way to reproduce?

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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

How about Atheism.

I would say atheism wouldn't fit too well, by the simple fact that Gods are actually visibly acting upon the world.  Agnosticism may fit better because of that.

It happened with the Dwemer in Elder Scrolls. Didn't go too well for them, what with the vanish-from-existence thing. And why not have a modifier like this one being tested here, to have a chance of disbelief/agnostic/don't care/somewhat-religious/devout/militant? Even more options!

I would change the edges to disenchanted (ie."The gods have a lot to answer for.") and Zealot (Zealots don't necessarily have to be militant, just be unwilling to listen to you if you contradict them.)

How about Atheism.

I would say atheism wouldn't fit too well, by the simple fact that Gods are actually visibly acting upon the world.  Agnosticism may fit better because of that.

Atheism in older worlds could be possible, since the gods are no longer involved in the world and most monsters are dead. One of the older ages even has this description "The Age of Civilization was a time when fantastic creatures were but mere stories told by travelers."

It could be interesting to see an actual moral progression in a race.

So the modifiers of belief being changed based on what the age is?  That would make sense.  Should I put up a new thread to continue the 'Atheism in DF' discussion on DF suggestions, since it isn't in the game and this thread is (well, intended) to be about an already in-game mechanic?

Edit: So many ninjas....

[Lich180]

What was that ancient Greek fighting force, made of gay couples? The theory was they would fight better if they were with their lover. Don't remember their name, or I'd link it...

[xeluc]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

The first thing I can think of is kill off all the elves, but, hey, that's just me.

It was stated earlier that that's impossible since they're immortal. It would limit their growth however If you so choose.

@azukash. lol, wonder how that could be implimented. Maybe something to do with how child snatching is done.

[Broseph Stalin]

Possibly an entirely female race that abducts male children to be used as a way to reproduce?

Very interesting.

[Skorp]

Yes, we need to re-rail the thread. Quick, how could we weaponise homosexuality?

Only two ways I've thought of to derive benefit are to ratchet up homosexuality to save on beds without increasing the number of children, and lesbian dwarves have no babies to carry into battle and then lose their shit over.

The lesbian dwarfs would be particularly useful, maybe just leaving 1/10 of the female population straight so the civilization doesn’t die.

[Lyeos]

It was stated earlier that that's impossible since they're immortal. It would limit their growth however If you so choose.

Hm.
This is why I need to read the thread. And pay more attention to the game.
Have fun discussing this, guys.

[samanato]

What was that ancient Greek fighting force, made of gay couples? The theory was they would fight better if they were with their lover. Don't remember their name, or I'd link it...

The Sacred Band of Thebes.

Speaking of which, someone mentioned the advantage of lesbian dorfs being soldiers. Maybe you could danger-room a godly melee squad of female lovers?

[xeluc]

What was that ancient Greek fighting force, made of gay couples? The theory was they would fight better if they were with their lover. Don't remember their name, or I'd link it...

The Sacred Band of Thebes.

Speaking of which, someone mentioned the advantage of lesbian dorfs being soldiers. Maybe you could danger-room a godly melee squad of female lovers?

That would definitely make Amazons, minus the female loving part.

Man this thread is ON FIRE.

[TD1]

Out of curiosity, would it make more sense to have some races more/less gay? I really don't picture Dwarves as gay, but elves I can. It's just how I view the races.

[Broseph Stalin]

What was that ancient Greek fighting force, made of gay couples? The theory was they would fight better if they were with their lover. Don't remember their name, or I'd link it...

The Sacred Band of Thebes.

Speaking of which, someone mentioned the advantage of lesbian dorfs being soldiers. Maybe you could danger-room a godly melee squad of female lovers?

If morale became advanced enough to receive a buff when near a loved one that would work but for now you just run the risk of "lost a spouse to tragedy" and "witnessed death" hitting simultaneously.

[wierd]

Incubi and succubi, depending on which grimoire you decide to read (ahem), can be either "The exact same thing", to "Discrete things that work together to undermine creation".

In the first manner, they are sometimes depicted as sexual shapechangers, who assume a form suitable for the collection of semen, (typically female, but could also be homosexual male I suppose), where they seduce a male individual and do the dirty with them to get their spunk.

They then transform into a male form, after using their demonic powers to alter the semen they have collected, to produce corrupted demonic children on women, again using their seduction powers.

When attacking males, they are known as succubi, and when attacking women, they are known as incubi.

The second methodology proposed in traditional demonological texts involves a pair of entities-- one who collects, then transfers to its partner-- the act of transferrence being where the corruption takes place, where the later then sews its corrupt seed upon the world.

Both are the results of very dogmatic views of sexuality promulgated by the catholic church in the dark ages.

Surprisingly, this isnt that far removed from the current "Night creature spouse" type transformations that happen in the game already.

[Darksilverhawk]

You don't even have to do anything to weaponize these. Give me amazon lesbian militia squads or give me death! Or both, as is inevitable.

Seriously, though, while I tend to keep my dorfs from starting families where possible, mechanically I am 100% in favor of anything that allows couples to exist without them popping out a constant stream of children. Unintentional or not, it's a good addition.