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It makes me sad. So very very sad.

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I think it's great!

26 (22.2%)

I'm indifferent.

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Total Members Voted: 115

[inspiredsimji]

Just wanted to say inspiredsimji is a troll from tumblr, his/her post is on the first page of #dwarf fortress tag highlighting this thread.

"wow
im trying my damnedest to convince people in this thread that their casual homophobia is NOT ok but i cant even get through their thick neckbeard skulls"

Just thought I would point it out so you guys wont feed the troll anymore, even with well constructed and though through arguments as he/she is just going to disregard it and continue spouting the whole tumblr dogmatic responses.

I just posted a link to my tumblr. Check my about page. I'm actually gay, and I'm actually offended by this. Is it that hard to believe that someone who isn't straight played Dwarf Fortress?

Oh, and Gukag: "SJW" is just something you call "people who actually experience discrimination".

[xeluc]

Eh I think they're just very upset with how homosexuals are treated IRL, and are hyper sensitive because of that. Regardless, there is no reasoning with them. Unfortunate.

[Azukash]

Nice, SJW's in Dwarf Fortress. There's literally nothing they won't attempt to inject their politics in.

It is very irritating they they try to get niche games such as DF to try and cater to their ideologies.

[inspiredsimji]

Nice, SJW's in Dwarf Fortress. There's literally nothing they won't attempt to inject their politics in.

It is very irritating they they try to get niche games such as DF to try and cater to their ideologies.

Oh no, I want a game that doesn't passively support homophobia! How annoying! As a straight person, I'm annoyed by something not being about me!

[WillowLuman]

I'm begging you, please go to this thread: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43236.79905;topicseen

[Skorp]

inspiredsimji I think the problem is that dwarf fortress attempts to be a simulator, there is no real reason why homophobia or racism shouldn't exist. And really, considering that indiscriminate murder and genocide are common parts of the game, why is this such a big deal?

[xeluc]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

[Skorp]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

Yes, we need to re-rail the thread. Quick, how could we weaponise homosexuality?

[Azukash]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

Someone mentioned earlier an entirely gay race, maybe something like succubi, or some sort of demon race.

[Broseph Stalin]

inspiredsimji I think the problem is that dwarf fortress attempts to be a simulator, there is no real reason why homophobia or racism shouldn't exist. And really, considering that indiscriminate murder and genocide are common parts of the game, why is this such a big deal?

Everyone who is not him has excepted those arguments. Everyone who is not him appreciates the difference between including something in a game and tacit approval of homophobia. Whether or not he's a troll he's made it very clear he can't be reasoned with and there's no reason to engage him further.

[Lyeos]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

The first thing I can think of is kill off all the elves, but, hey, that's just me.

[xeluc]

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

Someone mentioned earlier an entirely gay race, maybe something like succubi, or some sort of demon race.

Amazons I believe

[samanato]

my gods has this thread gone to the circus

OOOOOKAY troll or not, there has been a massive thread drift (and not the good kind)

Anyone else see different ways we can use this mechanic?

It opens up some big potential for modding, for one. You could use different sexual orientation matrices for each race to simulate differing cultural practices.  It would also be good for balancing, say, elves with metal-sharp enchanted equipment, so they don't dominate the overworld with their normally massive armies.

[Broseph Stalin]

Yes, we need to re-rail the thread. Quick, how could we weaponise homosexuality?

Only two ways I've thought of to derive benefit are to ratchet up homosexuality to save on beds without increasing the number of children, and lesbian dwarves have no babies to carry into battle and then lose their shit over.

[wierd]

Nice, SJW's in Dwarf Fortress. There's literally nothing they won't attempt to inject their politics in.

It is very irritating they they try to get niche games such as DF to try and cater to their ideologies.

Oh no, I want a game that doesn't passively support homophobia! How annoying! As a straight person, I'm annoyed by something not being about me!

There's a problem with your argument.

I am asexual. Not straight, Not gay, Not bisexual. I am the OTHER, OTHER, OTHER, OTHER sexual preference.  I agree with the guy. You are basically demanding wish fullfillment. We want realism. It's that simple. Historically, asexual people have been just as demonized and downtrodden as other people who dont fit the "Tab A only goes in slot B!" category. In the dark ages, it was considered a man's civic duty to marry and have children-- something I have absolutely zero interest in.  I would have been punished just as severely as you would for being gay.  I am considered just as strange as you are, if not more so. Sexual people in general just dont understand what "I dont have sexual impulses" means.

Does that mean I want all dwarves in this game to have no connotations of sexuality in their cultures, so that they would be just like me?

HELL NO.

I want diversity, because diversity causes random confluences that make the game interesting and lively.

Please stop with your unfounded accusations and blatant wish fulfillment. Thank you.