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[Urist McScoopbeard]

is that warp dust, brother?

[Dorsidwarf]

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?
I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.

WOT.

There's many jokes to be had about shards here

But yeah, this wasn't even a transcendent shard, this was full blown nightbringer which ate carnifexes and dreadnoughts

Then... then how did a t3 guardsmen with no save whatsoever survive so many rounds? Did it just flub all its hits and wounds?




Also thank you apple, for enriching the gender possibilities of ancient soulless star-eating god-abominations.

[spazyak]

Besides ctans are omnisexuals- they'll eat out anything's power.

[sprinkled chariot]

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?
I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.

WOT.

There's many jokes to be had about shards here

But yeah, this wasn't even a transcendent shard, this was full blown nightbringer which ate carnifexes and dreadnoughts

Then... then how did a t3 guardsmen with no save whatsoever survive so many rounds? Did it just flub all its hits and wounds?




Also thank you apple, for enriching the gender possibilities of ancient soulless star-eating god-abominations.

Cadians. ( insert that aliens meme dude)

[Grim Portent]

Based on some teaser material GW have released it looks like genestealer cults will have access to tanks, probably Leman Russ variants.

[90908]

Based on some teaser material GW have released it looks like genestealer cults will have access to tanks, probably Leman Russ variants.

This is unacceptable. Genestealers should only have access to sadness and a profound sense of disappointment as they get shot from halfway across the board.

[sprinkled chariot]

Based on some teaser material GW have released it looks like genestealer cults will have access to tanks, probably Leman Russ variants.

This is unacceptable. Genestealers should only have access to sadness and a profound sense of disappointment as they get shot from halfway across the board.

You still have your basilisks for that.

[Tack]

I'd assume most should have infiltrate, but hey.

The teaser video interested me. Why would genestealer cults bother with the demagoguery when they're all mindlinked anyway?

Which raises the idea that perhaps they rope in normal gangers.
But even then you'd think they get to jabbin' and matin' and free will go byebye.

[Grim Portent]

Despite being mindlinked genestealer cultists have independent thought. They're not slaves to the Patriarch's will, they're a family, a religion based around the worship of their genetic sire and the goal of placing him atop the society they dwell in and ushering in the coming of their salvation from the stars. To what extent they know of the wider Tyranids is questionable, but it is likely the Patriarch lies to them or is ignorant themselves of the ultimate fate they will face when the Hive Fleets arrive.

Most of the 'stealer cultists don't have infiltrate from what I recall, though they can get it from their formation. Only the Patriarch and the purebreds have it. The others are supposed to lack the true stealthy nature of the genestealers that lets them infiltrate on tabletop.

[Loud Whispers]

Weird thing about genestealer hybrids is that the more generations they go down, the more they look like the host until they are indistinguishable from the host (cept maybe not under medical/inquisitorial/psyker examination). Hosts of genestealer genes (in a funny way, genestealers reproduce like a superior version of space marines) are slaves to the brood and there's not really any reason to keep them ignorant of their ultimate fate of when the nids arrive as they're more than willing to die/breed for the brood, do fight for the nids when they arrive, and are incapable of rebelling. Of note though, is that to reproduce they need a partner of the host species that need not be infected with genestealer genes (thus having a cultist who is pure host and can't be infected for whatever reason) would have to be kept in the dark until such time as their infection.

The preacher is probably spreading recruitment propaganda to get more uninfected humans to accept genestealer hybridisation
Also of note is that genestealers themselves, whilst not independent from the hive, are incredibly autonomous (not being synapse nids and all), which explains why their hybrids can also be functionally indistinguishable from free-willed hosts

[Grim Portent]

Genestealers themselves are instinctively programmed to flee the hive fleets and scatter to the stars in the name of self preservation. The Norn Queens made them that way to make them function as a vanguard organism that needs no direct oversight. They're smart enough to out think most humans, more agile than anyone who isn't a genemodded assassin, as strong as marines and able to survive in conditions that would kill an ork and have the free will to take advantage of all of this for personal gain. It helps the Hive Mind avoid wasting time on sneaking them onto refugee ships and military evacuation vessels that it could spend guiding 'gaunt swarms and warriors.

The wider brood inherits the same basic qualities, but they diminish as each generation passes. The gen 1s and 2s are more alien than man, both in body and mind, but the gen 3s are close to human and the gen 4s are almost human, with all the good and bad that entails. Early gens are stronger than late gens, and are implied to be more devoted to the brood than their own children are. All are highly autonomous and theoretically capable of disobeying the Patriarch, though anyone who tries is probably mentally dominated and slain.

The rules pdf for the models from Deathwatch: Overkill have some fluff that is somewhat interesting. https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Deathwatch/40k-rules-deathwatch-en.pdf
Notably the Magus is able to order his brethren around because of their devotion to the Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor as much as, if not more so, than his personal and psychic power.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

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Weird thing about genestealer hybrids is that the more generations they go down, the more they look like the host until they are indistinguishable from the host (cept maybe not under medical/inquisitorial/psyker examination).
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Homeopathic genetics?

[Tack]

Quite possibly.
I wouldn't want to be the 4g giving birth to a purestrain though.

[Grim Portent]

Weird thing about that is that despite the gen 4s numbering in the thousands or millions in most major infestations they still have rather few purestrains among their ranks. In theory a mature cult should include several thousand purestrains, but usually they seem to be depicted with only a few dozen or less.

[sprinkled chariot]

Weird thing about that is that despite the gen 4s numbering in the thousands or millions in most major infestations they still have rather few purestrains among their ranks. In theory a mature cult should include several thousand purestrains, but usually they seem to be depicted with only a few dozen or less.

May be the environment danger level affects this?

In shitholes, where you need LOTS of purestrain, genestealers have lots of purestrain, but in society, which would be easier to infiltrate with gen 4 hybrids, the ammount of purestrains would stay rather low.