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[Andres]

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

[Grim Portent]

Speaking of which, do you guys think the fluff will ever have the Tau use their currently-being developed send-stars-into-supernova technology? And then be steamrolled by an Imperium that says 'LOLNOPE NOT HAPPENIN' in response?

Probably not. The Tau are an empire of a few hundred worlds, the moment the Imperium considers them a threat rather than a nuisance they'll get stomped out. GW are pretty good at making sure the Tau are never really anything more than a pest to the Imperium.

Nearly happened in Kauyon/Mont'ka already when Aun'Va released a video saying the Imperium was weak and that the Tau were declaring their new age of expansion into Imperial space. The Imperium responded by setting fire to a caustic nebula that had kept the Tau hemmed in for centuries and destroying every world the Tau had gained any major presence on with Exterminatus. And when I say they set fire to a nebula I literally mean they set fire to a nebula. A huge gulf of caustic material in the void that the Tau had only just found a way through suddenly became a raging maelstrom of fiery death in addition to an acidic nightmare that will burn without end. The Imperium can just warp through it, but the Tau FTL method doesn't bypass it.

The only reason the Imperium went to such lengths was that the Admiral in charge of the Imperial fleet decided they had more important things to do and decided to deny the Tau territory because he could. He got irritated that the Imp Guard and Space Marines were taking too long and went with the 'Fuck it, we have more planets than they have spaceships!' method of defeating the enemy.

Also, in somewhat spoilery note:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Aun'Va, supreme leader of the Tau, is dead. Slain by a Culexus assassin. Apparently Tau ground troops and machinery are basically powerless against them. Then again, everyone is basically powerless against Culexii.

[GiglameshDespair]

and their armed forces are super cool.

And in the end, that's what really matters.
_{No, really.}

[Egan_BW]

Nids will eat whole galaxy, no more chaos, no more exterminatus.
Good end, Nids are real good guys, join genesteal cult today.

[nenjin]

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

Are they really pro human though? Yeah they support the human race but they're ultimate goal is to divest themselves of their humanity. But they've always seemed one edict away from hatin' humanity.

[Kot]

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

Skitarii
are
fucking
badass.

Like those dudes prance around on two legged insect walkers (like, holy shit, I wanted to have Imperial Guard rough riders Winged Hussars but they... woah), shoot people with pure radiation and their gun design is fucking cool. Also robes and hoods and armour all around. Ever since they came out I am utterly confused whether Imperial Guard is still my favourite faction and I liked the Mechanicus armed forces even before, due to how cool they look while they laugh at your inferior technology.

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

Are they really pro human though? Yeah they support the human race but they're ultimate goal is to divest themselves of their humanity. But they've always seemed one edict away from hatin' humanity.

Kind of. They're still more or less human (or at least they usually have at least 1% human body, usually some portion of the brain) and they always were more of "improve" than "remove", and even then Adeptus Mechanicus aren't all focused on machines, since they dig technology, and biotechnology (CLONING VATS ANYONE?!) counts... Also, as much as they would want to, they can't really make mechanical babies (though, IIRC, I remember there was an canon story about Adeptus Mechanicus couple and they basically grew the baby in a vat and enjoyed looking at it, which is either unbeliveably creepy or... kinda cute, I guess?), at least not yet.
Aaand, considering that their state is way worse than they would want anyone to know, they can't really exist without Imperium, and Imperium cannot live without them. They might be two different institutions, but in the end they're all humans and work for the survival of human race, as that is the core of the Cult Mechanicus.

[Rolepgeek]

Speaking of which, do you guys think the fluff will ever have the Tau use their currently-being developed send-stars-into-supernova technology? And then be steamrolled by an Imperium that says 'LOLNOPE NOT HAPPENIN' in response?

Probably not. The Tau are an empire of a few hundred worlds, the moment the Imperium considers them a threat rather than a nuisance they'll get stomped out. GW are pretty good at making sure the Tau are never really anything more than a pest to the Imperium.

Nearly happened in Kauyon/Mont'ka already when Aun'Va released a video saying the Imperium was weak and that the Tau were declaring their new age of expansion into Imperial space. The Imperium responded by setting fire to a caustic nebula that had kept the Tau hemmed in for centuries and destroying every world the Tau had gained any major presence on with Exterminatus. And when I say they set fire to a nebula I literally mean they set fire to a nebula. A huge gulf of caustic material in the void that the Tau had only just found a way through suddenly became a raging maelstrom of fiery death in addition to an acidic nightmare that will burn without end. The Imperium can just warp through it, but the Tau FTL method doesn't bypass it.

The only reason the Imperium went to such lengths was that the Admiral in charge of the Imperial fleet decided they had more important things to do and decided to deny the Tau territory because he could. He got irritated that the Imp Guard and Space Marines were taking too long and went with the 'Fuck it, we have more planets than they have spaceships!' method of defeating the enemy.

Also, in somewhat spoilery note:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Aun'Va, supreme leader of the Tau, is dead. Slain by a Culexus assassin. Apparently Tau ground troops and machinery are basically powerless against them. Then again, everyone is basically powerless against Culexii.

Jesus. That's news. I mean, I still figure that if the story ever progressed, Tau would either die soon or become more than a minor nuisance (that is to say, a major nuisance), with the infinitely slow crumbling of the Imperium, and the constant expansion/technology development of the Tau. I mean, they'll never take over the galaxy, because anything that defeats the Imperium will eat the Empire with ease even if it was fifty times it's current size, but...what can I say? I like the underdogs.

On the second bit,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 I...wait, what? So does this confirm that Ethereals are psykers? Like, Tau have shit for warp presence, why the fuck would they send a Culexus? What the fuck is up with Tau technology that it can't do shit to something who's biggest thing is being like the Tau(in terms of Warpiness), except more?

Also, might do some good to get someone more reasonable into office.

Just realized, though, the Imperium basically made a non-Warp storm to fuck the Tau. That's actually pretty fucking awesome.

Mechanicus are cool. Dicks, but cool. Everyone is dicks anyway, so it's not actually a mark against them.

[Kot]

I like the underdogs.

Underdogs? Fish Of Fury, PLEASE.

Mechanicus are cool. Dicks, but cool. Everyone is dicks anyway, so it's not actually a mark against them.

Considering everything that happened, the Mechanicus are actually proably the least dicks of them all. Sure, they do act like ones, but in the end it's the dickery inside that counts.

[KingofstarrySkies]

they've been nerfed you goof and the tau are most certainly an underdog

[Kot]

they've been nerfed you goof and the tau are most certainly an underdog

It doesn't change anything, the evil has been done and now only hate remains.
FUCK TAU.

[KingofstarrySkies]

delicious, bitter, salty tears

[Grim Portent]

On the second bit,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 I...wait, what? So does this confirm that Ethereals are psykers? Like, Tau have shit for warp presence, why the fuck would they send a Culexus? What the fuck is up with Tau technology that it can't do shit to something who's biggest thing is being like the Tau(in terms of Warpiness), except more?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Blanks affect all souled beings, even the Tau. Being near the strong ones, like Culexii, causes your soul to be temporarily ripped out, which causes aneuryisms in the weak willed. Normal Tau just died when near it from heart attacks, blood clots and the like. Aun'Va was pretty impressive in that he had to be killed manually by it.

It also had either a warp based EMP aura or was carrying something that projected one. Combined with it's Etherium, which let it phase in and out of reality, drones and other security mechanisms couldn't detect or stop it. It just walked into a bunker, killed anything that came near it and then killed it's target.

In the same battle a Vindicare and an Eversor failed to kill Farsight, though the Eversor came really close, and a Callidus failed to kill Shadowsun while disguised as an Ethereal. Shadowsun could apparently smell the difference between the disguised assassin and a real ethereal.

The Tau supreme council has decided not to let the rest of the Empire know Aun'Va is dead yet, so they've replaced him with holograms, decoys and so forth. Basically so 40k player can still field him.

[Rolepgeek]

On the second bit,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 I...wait, what? So does this confirm that Ethereals are psykers? Like, Tau have shit for warp presence, why the fuck would they send a Culexus? What the fuck is up with Tau technology that it can't do shit to something who's biggest thing is being like the Tau(in terms of Warpiness), except more?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Blanks affect all souled beings, even the Tau. Being near the strong ones, like Culexii, causes your soul to be temporarily ripped out, which causes aneuryisms in the weak willed. Normal Tau just died when near it from heart attacks, blood clots and the like. Aun'Va was pretty impressive in that he had to be killed manually by it.

It also had either a warp based EMP aura or was carrying something that projected one. Combined with it's Etherium, which let it phase in and out of reality, drones and other security mechanisms couldn't detect or stop it. It just walked into a bunker, killed anything that came near it and then killed it's target.

In the same battle a Vindicare and an Eversor failed to kill Farsight, though the Eversor came really close, and a Callidus failed to kill Shadowsun while disguised as an Ethereal. Shadowsun could apparently smell the difference between the disguised assassin and a real ethereal.

The Tau supreme council has decided not to let the rest of the Empire know Aun'Va is dead yet, so they've replaced him with holograms, decoys and so forth. Basically so 40k player can still field him.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Didn't know that bit about Culexii. EMP aura+phase blink will certainly do it, though. If only we could have killed one and stolen the tech...

[Egan_BW]

Xenotech is profit!

[Kot]

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Didn't know that bit about Culexii. EMP aura+phase blink will certainly do it, though. If only we could have killed one and stolen the tech...

I like how you refeer to Tau as "we", heretic.