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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 1043949 times)

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3240 on: March 02, 2016, 07:18:02 pm »

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3241 on: March 02, 2016, 07:18:55 pm »

Speaking of which, do you guys think the fluff will ever have the Tau use their currently-being developed send-stars-into-supernova technology? And then be steamrolled by an Imperium that says 'LOLNOPE NOT HAPPENIN' in response?

Probably not. The Tau are an empire of a few hundred worlds, the moment the Imperium considers them a threat rather than a nuisance they'll get stomped out. GW are pretty good at making sure the Tau are never really anything more than a pest to the Imperium.

Nearly happened in Kauyon/Mont'ka already when Aun'Va released a video saying the Imperium was weak and that the Tau were declaring their new age of expansion into Imperial space. The Imperium responded by setting fire to a caustic nebula that had kept the Tau hemmed in for centuries and destroying every world the Tau had gained any major presence on with Exterminatus. And when I say they set fire to a nebula I literally mean they set fire to a nebula. A huge gulf of caustic material in the void that the Tau had only just found a way through suddenly became a raging maelstrom of fiery death in addition to an acidic nightmare that will burn without end. The Imperium can just warp through it, but the Tau FTL method doesn't bypass it.

The only reason the Imperium went to such lengths was that the Admiral in charge of the Imperial fleet decided they had more important things to do and decided to deny the Tau territory because he could. He got irritated that the Imp Guard and Space Marines were taking too long and went with the 'Fuck it, we have more planets than they have spaceships!' method of defeating the enemy.

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3242 on: March 02, 2016, 07:26:45 pm »

and their armed forces are super cool.

And in the end, that's what really matters.
No, really.
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« Reply #3243 on: March 02, 2016, 07:26:59 pm »

Nids will eat whole galaxy, no more chaos, no more exterminatus.
Good end, Nids are real good guys, join genesteal cult today.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3244 on: March 02, 2016, 07:35:39 pm »

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

Are they really pro human though? Yeah they support the human race but they're ultimate goal is to divest themselves of their humanity. But they've always seemed one edict away from hatin' humanity.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3245 on: March 02, 2016, 07:46:10 pm »

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.
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Like those dudes prance around on two legged insect walkers (like, holy shit, I wanted to have Imperial Guard rough riders Winged Hussars but they... woah), shoot people with pure radiation and their gun design is fucking cool. Also robes and hoods and armour all around. Ever since they came out I am utterly confused whether Imperial Guard is still my favourite faction and I liked the Mechanicus armed forces even before, due to how cool they look while they laugh at your inferior technology.

I think the Mechnicus is pretty cool, or at least the aspects that aren't "MY MACHINES!!!" They're pretty much the only faction that really does stuff with Machine Spirits, their fundamental religious strictures are interesting, they're pro-human, and their armed forces are super cool.

Are they really pro human though? Yeah they support the human race but they're ultimate goal is to divest themselves of their humanity. But they've always seemed one edict away from hatin' humanity.
Kind of. They're still more or less human (or at least they usually have at least 1% human body, usually some portion of the brain) and they always were more of "improve" than "remove", and even then Adeptus Mechanicus aren't all focused on machines, since they dig technology, and biotechnology (CLONING VATS ANYONE?!) counts... Also, as much as they would want to, they can't really make mechanical babies (though, IIRC, I remember there was an canon story about Adeptus Mechanicus couple and they basically grew the baby in a vat and enjoyed looking at it, which is either unbeliveably creepy or... kinda cute, I guess?), at least not yet.
Aaand, considering that their state is way worse than they would want anyone to know, they can't really exist without Imperium, and Imperium cannot live without them. They might be two different institutions, but in the end they're all humans and work for the survival of human race, as that is the core of the Cult Mechanicus.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3246 on: March 02, 2016, 08:02:29 pm »

Speaking of which, do you guys think the fluff will ever have the Tau use their currently-being developed send-stars-into-supernova technology? And then be steamrolled by an Imperium that says 'LOLNOPE NOT HAPPENIN' in response?

Probably not. The Tau are an empire of a few hundred worlds, the moment the Imperium considers them a threat rather than a nuisance they'll get stomped out. GW are pretty good at making sure the Tau are never really anything more than a pest to the Imperium.

Nearly happened in Kauyon/Mont'ka already when Aun'Va released a video saying the Imperium was weak and that the Tau were declaring their new age of expansion into Imperial space. The Imperium responded by setting fire to a caustic nebula that had kept the Tau hemmed in for centuries and destroying every world the Tau had gained any major presence on with Exterminatus. And when I say they set fire to a nebula I literally mean they set fire to a nebula. A huge gulf of caustic material in the void that the Tau had only just found a way through suddenly became a raging maelstrom of fiery death in addition to an acidic nightmare that will burn without end. The Imperium can just warp through it, but the Tau FTL method doesn't bypass it.

The only reason the Imperium went to such lengths was that the Admiral in charge of the Imperial fleet decided they had more important things to do and decided to deny the Tau territory because he could. He got irritated that the Imp Guard and Space Marines were taking too long and went with the 'Fuck it, we have more planets than they have spaceships!' method of defeating the enemy.

Also, in somewhat spoilery note:
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Jesus. That's news. I mean, I still figure that if the story ever progressed, Tau would either die soon or become more than a minor nuisance (that is to say, a major nuisance), with the infinitely slow crumbling of the Imperium, and the constant expansion/technology development of the Tau. I mean, they'll never take over the galaxy, because anything that defeats the Imperium will eat the Empire with ease even if it was fifty times it's current size, but...what can I say? I like the underdogs. :P

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Just realized, though, the Imperium basically made a non-Warp storm to fuck the Tau. That's actually pretty fucking awesome.

Mechanicus are cool. Dicks, but cool. Everyone is dicks anyway, so it's not actually a mark against them.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3247 on: March 02, 2016, 08:10:52 pm »

I like the underdogs. :P
Underdogs? Fish Of Fury, PLEASE.
Mechanicus are cool. Dicks, but cool. Everyone is dicks anyway, so it's not actually a mark against them.
Considering everything that happened, the Mechanicus are actually proably the least dicks of them all. Sure, they do act like ones, but in the end it's the dickery inside that counts.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3248 on: March 02, 2016, 08:14:04 pm »

they've been nerfed you goof and the tau are most certainly an underdog
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3249 on: March 02, 2016, 08:15:53 pm »

they've been nerfed you goof and the tau are most certainly an underdog
It doesn't change anything, the evil has been done and now only hate remains.
FUCK TAU.
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« Reply #3250 on: March 02, 2016, 08:28:52 pm »

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« Reply #3251 on: March 02, 2016, 08:33:10 pm »

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« Reply #3252 on: March 02, 2016, 08:35:46 pm »

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« Reply #3253 on: March 02, 2016, 08:41:31 pm »

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3254 on: March 02, 2016, 08:43:38 pm »

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I like how you refeer to Tau as "we", heretic.
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