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[kj1225]

I like piracy.

[Prophet]

Thank you after hearing that i think I like trains too. Piracy sounds cool we can try it later on in the game if you want to? ((Plus if i like trains I won't end up like all the people around the I like trains kid hopfully.))

[Lyeos]

The piracy thing was a joke, but, yeah, we'll probably spend time on ships.

The train thing was less of a joke, I was thinking about the Phantom Train from FFVI, but I know Prophet dislikes tech in this setting so I presented it as a joke.

So, Prophet! What do you think about airships?

Uhh... Can I get a rough guesstimate as to the sorta tone of this setting?

[Prophet]

I would like airships but if i do add airships then I need to add more tech. To tell you the truth I'm fine with tech from the 18 hundreds but having them in the game means I have to kinda add guns too. I would be fine with guns if they didn't replace melee. By tone like do you mean like grimdark or lighthearted or are you asking about a different kind of tone? ((Remember I'm a noob. I mean I know that it must be "so" hard to tell but I am one.))

[kj1225]

Well, remember even to day a knife in the neck is just as efficient as a gun, and you miss less with a knife.

[Lyeos]

Well, remember even to day a knife in the neck is just as efficient as a gun, and you miss less with a knife.

This. We could even go ahead and say that guns would be either quite a bit more expensive than what the average person could afford or just difficult to obtain unless you know the right people. Remember, Ammilek has had almost eighty years to come up with the funds - nevermind, I didn't put one in the starting items.

Although, you do have to remember that since we are going to have stats related to their use, they really aren't going to be as overpowered as you think they're going to be.

And by tone, I mean... Here, have some tropes! Crapsack, Crapsaccharine, Cloud Cuckooland, World of Silence? Or, yes, something like what you said. I mean, none of these are gonna be an exact match, but... I dunno. You know how I am!

[kj1225]

Or something like this if you prefer your world not be a complete piece of shit that attracts emo kids.

[Lyeos]

Correction! World that weeds out the emo kids by making them kill themselves off right away, since they cannot handle the stress of having real problems. Mostly, I just find ruined cities/ruined cities being reclaimed by plant life rather beautiful. Bleh. We know this is going to be rather lighthearted and silly.

Plus, you know, getting those that you don't like killed off. Mhmm.

Although... We're getting here.

[Prophet]

I like Fantasy Kitchen Sink its the closest to how I was imagining the world to be. So if i had to choose the tone I choose Fantasy Kitchen Sink.

[Lyeos]

I like Fantasy Kitchen Sink its the closest to how I was imagining the world to be. So if i had to choose the tone I choose Fantasy Kitchen Sink.

It's not... Really a tone, you know? I was just making a joke since it's all going to be a mish-mash of random nonsense we make up.

[Prophet]

-Sulks in corner.- OK! What kind of tone suits a kinda dark but not to dark fantasy world then?

[Lyeos]

-Sulks in corner.- OK! What kind of tone suits a kinda dark but not to dark fantasy world then?

Dark Fantasy minus the Horror/Everything is evil/bad/trying to screw you over? I mean, you don't... You don't need to use one - again, none are going to be a perfect fit - but I was just asking to get a general idea?

I mean, basically, you just said that it's going to be slightly dark, which provides... Kind of an idea? Without giving too much away. I quite liked the thing in WoT where everyone was trying to screw each other over and the best way to completely confuse them and make them think you were up to something was by being honest and not trying to cheat them.

[kj1225]

Maybe a tone like A Song of Ice and Fire? You know, things suck but it's possible to unsuck them.

[Prophet]

What I meant was that there are really dark things in the game but the world is not really really sucky.

[Lyeos]

Maybe a tone like A Song of Ice and Fire? You know, things suck but it's possible to unsuck them.

This is kinda what I meant, your example for the tropes thing was better though. After all, what kind of person would make a game in which the players couldn't "win", no matter which (not literal) route they took?

*Lyeos quickly deletes his plans.

What I meant was that there are really dark things in the game but the world is not really really sucky.

Right! So we're going to be sucked into some sort of early-Silent Hill world by a being residing in a grandfather clock! Nah, that's pretty much as expected, otherwise there wouldn't be much of a plot unless we were on an adventure for the sake of adventure.

Personally, I'm all for ridiculous hijinks. >_>

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On a side note, part of the reason I told you to use different methods of punctuation earlier was because... Well, Zal never did. His characters were honestly gratingly irritating due to that - I mean, they never seemed to put any attempt at emotion into what they were saying, you know?

Another thing was that one guy's completely ridiculous and nonsensical reason for fighting Vlad... Having employers that wanted Vlad dead would have been at least more reasonable than "I saw you and was irritated, these guys hired me.", you know?

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Alright, screw it. I'm rather pissed off right now, so I'm going to come out and be a bossy jackass as I relieve some of my pent-up rage at sources none of you have control over.

1.) Change the damn OP. We're not going with that for starting plot, it's quite misleading, and, honestly, it wasn't that good the first time. Secondly, it would be more accurate to say something along the lines of "We are currently attempting to create a starting point for each of our new characters, as this version of the game is going to have a significantly different start and system from the first game. While the amount of players I will be able to handle is low, anyone willing to read through the thread and take a look at the list of things not yet started on is free to make suggestions or join the waitlist. This is my first time as a GM, so please be gentle on me as I figure out how to do this."

2.) Make the relationship post actually useful. Again, the relationships between factions that we know of would be nice so we don't have to rely on memory or hoping we can find it by searching. It'll help us, and it'll help you, because you'll be able to easily look over the information. If it is going to be used for players, for the love of all that is unholy, use it for general relationships with NPCs as well, rather than just shipping. It would be useful to be able to remember when "King X" hates a specific character.

3.) Please, present some ideas. Please. Playergamer. Other people that may join. Please.

4.) And update the dang post with the list with the proper one! You were already told that what you updated it to wasn't correct.