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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[Comrade P.]

You don't think that a person can become the 7 wealthiest in the country without playing things fair ?What are you, five years old ?

Welcome to post-Soviet economic space, baby.

[Xeron]

I live in a very corrupt post-soviet country too.Fair businesses can still exist and prosper greatly here.

[10ebbor10]

Hey, he might not be perfect, but at least he's competent and has decent PR.

[DJ]

I live in a very corrupt post-soviet country too.Fair businesses can still exist and prosper greatly here.

As somebody who lives in a corrupt country (Bosnia), I think that's bullshit.

[Knit tie]

Just because a man is rich doesn't mean he's evil or corrupt. He is most certainly an exceptionally skilled opportunist and businessman, and has probably paid some bribes in order to mollify the corrupt government, but that doesn't mean he would be a bad ruler. Besides, he sure knows how to handle money, so he'd be a boon to the Ukrainian economy.


And Ranger is right, the Maidan revolution had nothing to do with class struggle, it was more of a nationalist/liberal alliance vs. corrupt autocracy.

I live in a very corrupt post-soviet country too.Fair businesses can still exist and prosper greatly here.

As somebody who lives in a corrupt country (Bosnia), I think that's bullshit.

No it isn't. Legitimate businesses run by decent people can and do exist everywhere: Russia, Africa, Malaysia, Nepal, etc.- good men aren't geographically limited, though they may have to pay bribes and otherwise cooperate with corrupt governments in some places.

[DJ]

As far as I can see, a legitimate businessman can't compete with the ones with ties in the government because of all the bribery overhead.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26910210

Liberals are impotents when it comes to defending the country... Maybe it is time  to react on actions of Russian agents? If they are unable to do it themselves then arm the Right Sector and let them deal with this terrorists

[Sheb]

So when they're not on your side, they're terrorists?

[Xeron]

Sheb, he's talking about the pro-russian rioters.
Either way, i guess i'll have to start learning Russian if things continue like this.

[Sheb]

Yeah, exactly. But calling them "terrorists" for breaking into a government building, just like the Maidan people did a couple month ago seems a bit hypocritical.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

a) They have no 100 000 crowd nearby to prove that they represent any noticeable group of people.
b) They have no two months of peaceful everyday protests
c) Maydan never threw away Ukrainian flag to put a flag of another country instead. Maydan never acted against territorial integrity of the country
d) Maydan never demanded anything illegal from the government (resignation of the president is absolutely legal. And that was the most radical demand of Maydan.)
e) Very few foreigners were among the ranks of Maydan protesters. Here we have a lot of Russians

Yes, those are terrorists.

[Mr. Strange]

If he'll not behave in a way that we like... We know how to build barricades

My parents changed out their winter tires and I have the old ones stored away, in case you burned all the local building material last time.

[ivze]

UR, please, consider this: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/29/western-looting-ukraine-begun-paul-craig-roberts/
It looks quite serious.

[Xeron]

UR, please, consider this: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/29/western-looting-ukraine-begun-paul-craig-roberts/
It looks quite serious.

Don't bother with that crap, UR.

[Helgoland]

UR, please, consider this: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/29/western-looting-ukraine-begun-paul-craig-roberts/
It looks quite serious.

It is now apparent that the “Maiden protests” in Kiev were in actuality a Washington organized coup against the elected democratic government. The purpose of the coup is to put NATO military bases on Ukraine’s border with Russia and to impose an IMF austerity program that serves as cover for Western financial interests to loot the country. The sincere idealistic protesters who took to the streets without being paid were the gullible dupes of the plot to destroy their country.