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Author Topic: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!  (Read 55694 times)

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #525 on: April 29, 2014, 09:27:56 pm »

Other things that baffle me about round 4:
- The kills on both Tiruin and Ottofar.  The one on Tiruin was supposed to be due to the fact that she might be the daykiller, and the one on Ottofar was because he was the daykiller.  Why is that a scumtell?  Why would a KM with a huge advantage (being able to decide 2/3rds of the kills per cycle) want to throw that away entirely, except as a really bizarre act of WIFOM?  I also don't see why the Ottofar kill had to be made so hastily, he had already fired his shot.
- Why did 4mask go along with a plan that basically only worked if he was scum, and which was proposed by someone who he thought was scum?  A plan that would almost certainly result in his death?  And what's more, a plan that would expose his lie to someone else who he thought was town and put him into a 1v1 with another townie if he didn't die?
- Why did no-one even discuss the possibility of using redirect?
- Why did NQT want to no lynch even though he was clearly aware of the dangers of 3-man situations with scum daykillers?  What did he think a no lynch would accomplish, particularly on day 8?
I went along with the plan because I couldn't reverse it.  There was no way to make people think NQT was scum.  I damn nearly took NQT's head off in the night, but then decided to try and see if the scum would play along and try a Toaster kill.

I never told them about the redirect.

I was going to claim my full role the next day, I just needed not to die in the night.

But I was right about his memory.  Also, Cheese was quite quick on the draw there against me.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #526 on: April 29, 2014, 09:29:03 pm »

Why on earth would the scum kill Toaster?
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #527 on: April 29, 2014, 09:29:29 pm »

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #528 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:16 pm »

Honestly?  I forgot Ghoul had a kill.  In my head, with four players starting with a daykill, one misfire and I won.  I expected the chances of that happening to be better with four players instead of three; a gamble that still paid off.


I think taking the unexpected route got people acting rather than thinking, which is what I wanted.



Also, if we had no-lynched again, I would have just shot Wolf N4.





It just goes to show that giving everyone a daykill is a hilariously terrible idea.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #529 on: April 29, 2014, 09:31:20 pm »

I don't think I'd be able to see 4mask as town either.
What, exactly, did I do that was scummy?

Why on earth would the scum kill Toaster?
If my guard was sent in, they would kill me.  If not, they would kill Toaster and have a perfect scapegoat of me to quickhammer the next day.

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
A fat lot of good that will do us.

Honestly?  I forgot Ghoul had a kill.  In my head, with four players starting with a daykill, one misfire and I won.  I expected the chances of that happening to be better with four players instead of three; a gamble that still paid off.


I think taking the unexpected route got people acting rather than thinking, which is what I wanted.



Also, if we had no-lynched again, I would have just shot Wolf N4.





It just goes to show that giving everyone a daykill is a hilariously terrible idea.
Normal ghoul doesn't, MY version did.  The version I didn't tell you I had.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #530 on: April 29, 2014, 09:31:56 pm »

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
...I love this.  :P


All hail the Toaster King! May be not burn us in his...sockets!

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It just goes to show that giving everyone a daykill is a hilariously terrible idea.
Nah, no it isn't. It's an incentive!
What makes it a hilariously terrible idea is what you do with your daykill.
...
I seriously didn't see any kind of routine scumhunting when the daykills rolled out.
Did people get tired and wanted it to end? o_O
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #531 on: April 29, 2014, 09:32:50 pm »

I've been thinking that if people enjoy this game mode enough, we should have an unofficial version during the "off-season", which would run endlessly.

That is, once the thread starts it would run over and over as players try to get as many King Mafia wins as possible. It would be fun to have a high score list in the OP or something.

And! It would be good practice for when next year's KotM actually happens, whenever Toaster plans on hosting, that is.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #532 on: April 29, 2014, 09:33:29 pm »

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
A fat lot of good that will do us.
You're just bitter because I shot you in the face.

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
...I love this.  :P
See? Tiru liked it!
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #533 on: April 29, 2014, 09:34:04 pm »

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
...I love this.  :P


All hail the Toaster King! May be not burn us in his...sockets!

PPE
It just goes to show that giving everyone a daykill is a hilariously terrible idea.
Nah, no it isn't. It's an incentive!
What makes it a hilariously terrible idea is what you do with your daykill.
...
I seriously didn't see any kind of routine scumhunting when the daykills rolled out.
Did people get tired and wanted it to end? o_O
nah, I had a plan.  A plan that involved eliminating my top scum list one by one.  And cheese was at the bottom of it.

I've been thinking that if people enjoy this game mode enough, we should have an unofficial version during the "off-season", which would run endlessly.

That is, once the thread starts it would run over and over as players try to get as many King Mafia wins as possible. It would be fun to have a high score list in the OP or something.

And! It would be good practice for when next year's KotM actually happens, whenever Toaster plans on hosting, that is.

WANT!!!!!!!

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
A fat lot of good that will do us.
You're just bitter because I shot you in the face.

Can we please not let this all dissolve into arguments of blame and justification?
Please? I'll pardon you all.
...I love this.  :P
See? Tiru liked it!
not bitter, just plotting my revenge  :P

I don't actually hold it against you, though.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #534 on: April 29, 2014, 09:34:27 pm »

I've been thinking that if people enjoy this game mode enough, we should have an unofficial version during the "off-season", which would run endlessly.

That is, once the thread starts it would run over and over as players try to get as many King Mafia wins as possible. It would be fun to have a high score list in the OP or something.

And! It would be good practice for when next year's KotM actually happens, whenever Toaster plans on hosting, that is.
I'm fully up for this >:D
I mean, I've found the fun of holding a kill in your hands, but makeinu's chastizing on how to use kills has really wised me up. :D

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #535 on: April 29, 2014, 09:35:21 pm »

YES.

PLEASE do off-season games.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #536 on: April 29, 2014, 09:35:59 pm »

YES.

PLEASE do off-season games.
I've been thinking that if people enjoy this game mode enough, we should have an unofficial version during the "off-season", which would run endlessly.

That is, once the thread starts it would run over and over as players try to get as many King Mafia wins as possible. It would be fun to have a high score list in the OP or something.

And! It would be good practice for when next year's KotM actually happens, whenever Toaster plans on hosting, that is.
I'm fully up for this >:D
I mean, I've found the fun of holding a kill in your hands, but makeinu's chastizing on how to use kills has really wised me up. :D


IT'S OFFICIAL, SOMEONE SHOULD RUN THIS!!!!!

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #537 on: April 29, 2014, 09:36:29 pm »

Well, this ended quickly. I didn't get a chance to play again, but I'll have a chance next time.

Reading over stuff, 4mask seemed town because he thought of a strategy that would win the game for town, even if he was scum.

PPE: Stop writing so many posts so quickly!

Also, I'd definitely sign up for Toony's idea.

PPE #2: 6 posts in the time it took m to write this.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #538 on: April 29, 2014, 09:36:34 pm »

not bitter, just plotting my revenge  :P

I don't actually hold it against you, though.
Oh, I know.

I just expect that in the next game, I'll get to say precisely one thing, and then I'll get day killed with you saying "THAT'S WHAT YOU GET SON"
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #539 on: April 29, 2014, 09:38:21 pm »

not bitter, just plotting my revenge  :P

I don't actually hold it against you, though.
Oh, I know.

I just expect that in the next game, I'll get to say precisely one thing, and then I'll get day killed with you saying "THAT'S WHAT YOU GET SON"
lolz

My chosen role is not, in fact, daykiller.  I can't say what it is, but it's going to be lots of fun when I get to play it.

Plus, I don't hold grudges worth a damn.
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