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[TheDarkStar]

The syringe is doctor (protect?)

I think you forgot one thing:

Changeling

Changeling doesn't stay behind when you use it. Why would I still have it?

[hops]

I'm saying that you weren't a Doctor earlier, so saying that you're a town just because you appear as a Doctor NOW isn't really the evidence that you're town.

[Tack]

But yes, we're all still very aware of the fact that you have changeling, Obj

[hops]

I still need to pass it on, no hard feelings.
I'll just swap with someone who I think is scum.

[Jack A T]

NATIVEFOREGINER, I WILL BE SURPRISED IF YOU FLIP TOWN!

Tawarochir: This is stupid.

First, claim what? Miller? I'm not miller, I thought it would be a bad idea.

Are you even paying attention to this game?  Have you not noticed the massclaim?

Yes he did! He stated 'town' right there in the post my quote was attached to. >_>
And the use of explicitly is that he said, town, of all things. Not that he said 'explicitly town', but that I noticed he said explicitly, 'town'.

Tiruin: In the future, please emphasize the wording you're pointing out instead of something not in the post, then.

NQT note?

The bit about miller being a flaw available only to town.  Wording from your post that I was responding to.

Leafsnail: Alright.  You've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Tack has been playing terribly.  What I don't see much evidence of is Tack being scum.  Most of your evidence centres around him being a bad player, and there's plenty of evidence of that.  However, just showing that he's a bad player doesn't say much about what he is, when the bad play is bad play regardless of alignment.

So.  What makes Tack scum?

Also, I notice you've collected quite a few targets.  Which players do you think are the scumteam and why?

I'm saying that you weren't a Doctor earlier, so saying that you're a town just because you appear as a Doctor NOW isn't really the evidence that you're town.

Objective: This point lacks relevance: nobody is making that argument.  Nobody has even come close to making that argument.

What I find interesting is how you're not contesting the flavour inspect result, or even the interpretations of the flavour inspect result.  You know, the result that includes, opposing the over-the-top scumminess of the miller flavour NQT's thrown throughout the game (publicly, at that!), an over-the-top "pillar of the community" standing tall in white robes.  Oh, and (just as importantly) has no sign of bloodthirstiness.  Any comment?

[hops]

That's because I think TDS does have Innocent, otherwise he would have been caught the moment someone scanned him.

[TheDarkStar]

That's because I think TDS does have Innocent, otherwise he would have been caught the moment someone scanned him.

Of course I have innocent! I switched roles with you, remember? Changeling doesn't just switch powers; it also switches autos and flaws. The entire point is that I got Innocent from you.

[Jack A T]

That's because I think TDS does have Innocent, otherwise he would have been caught the moment someone scanned him.

Heh.

Heh heh.

Heh heh heh.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

So.  You agree that, when TheDarkStar used his power (which, by the way, occurs after the power purchase phase) that exchanged his entire role with your entire role, he ended up with a role that includes Innocent?

A power that he can only have at this point if he got it from you?

[4maskwolf]

Okay, so Objective is scum, TDS is likely not scum, Jack is maybe not scum, Leafy is scum.

Okay, now who are the remaining two scum players?

I suspect those who have not roleclaimed yet of being the scumbiscuit converter, because nothing said so far other than objective's lies fail to match up with the fortune tell.  So either Native is scum and working in alibis or native is not scum and the converter is inactive.

Also, did we ever get an answer to at what time fortune teller reads from?  Does it give the power list from the beginning of the night or the time it initiates?

[TheDarkStar]

Can someone post an updated list of what powers/autos/flaws are left?

[Jack A T]

Also, did we ever get an answer to at what time fortune teller reads from?  Does it give the power list from the beginning of the night or the time it initiates?

4maskwolf:

Jim

NQT, does Fortune Teller report results from the start of the phase or the end of the phase?

The very end of the phase.

[Leafsnail]

Jack: I find it a bit rich that you're taking that as evidence of Objective as scum after telling me that Tack is merely a bad player.  How does that quote indicate anything other than a misunderstanding of the rules regarding power purchasing?

Leafsnail: Alright.  You've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Tack has been playing terribly.  What I don't see much evidence of is Tack being scum.  Most of your evidence centres around him being a bad player, and there's plenty of evidence of that.  However, just showing that he's a bad player doesn't say much about what he is, when the bad play is bad play regardless of alignment.

So.  What makes Tack scum?

I don't accept that he is merely a poor player.  A poor player will make mistakes, yes, but they will have at least have an explanation for what they did (even if that explanation is ridiculous).  Tack doesn't have that.  He repeatedly contradicts himself then fails to even attempt to reconcile those contradictions.

Also, I notice you've collected quite a few targets.  Which players do you think are the scumteam and why?

Definite: MOWE - is a liar
Probable: Tack - endless self contradiction (re: cop claiming, "we must lynch the converter now", whether he's cleared or not
TDS - Supported Tack's confirmed townie claim completely uncritically and twice declined to explain why he did so.  The second time I bolded the fucking question.  He's also attempted to answer a question aimed at MOWE for no apparent reason, come to think of it.
Jack AT - Targeting Tack gave scum every reason to convert you night one.  I have not really examined you closely yet (partly because you can't really be the converter) but something about your inspections also doesn't really sit right with me, especially the really heavy handed "HE'S INNOCENT GUYS" in your more recent one (and the fact that you don't seem to be worried about the complete lack of indication of Sap in there).

[Leafsnail]

Also MOWE is definitely scum and probably the converter so is a pretty good pick all around.  Compare this to the definitely not a converter you guys are trying to lynch.

[4maskwolf]

Let's just go through another claim so I can figure this out.  Claim what you have now, and TDS, you can claim for Objective because Objective is a scumbiscuit and you know what objective has.

I claimed blatant miller unable to vote unstoppable clear-minded killer

I targeted Nobody last night

Also, can anyone prove that MOWE is lying or telling the truth?

And leafy, but you are scum, are you not?

[4maskwolf]

Also, I would like to note that even after you recycled Tack, there are still two infalliable alignment cops in play.  Assuming that he was an infalliable alignment cop.  I do see it is likely that Jack is a scumbiscuit.