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[TheDarkStar]

4maskwolf: Do you have an idea of who the last scum is?

[4maskwolf]

I have an idea.

Let's lynch Jack.

Here's why:
if he flips town, then we're probably screwed unless someone roleblocks Leafsnail.  If someone buys a roleblock and does that, then we may have a chance if I can take out the converter.  Though someone should hit me with a bus effect onto someone else to prevent scum roleblockers.
if he flips scum, Leaf can recycle MOWE, our inspectors can hit Leafy and TDS, and it will call into question the validity of all claims based off of his results.  This will give us vast amounts of information.

Either way, we either clear a lot of people or damn a lot of them.  Fun times to be had all around.

PPE: I'm getting there.  I need to see more activity.

[Tack]

That's a good point on Jack A T, but unfortunately he didn't actually come out with what he hit me with until day 2.

However, if an inspect happens before a convert, he could have checked me out, been converted, and then used the true inspection to get some credibility.

I don't want to put doubt on Jack A T simply because that puts doubt on me, but I guess we can't take it completely for granted that he's town.

However, that ruins any possibility of him being the converter.
Only real solid information we could get from that is the inspect he did on TheDarkStar, who still can't tell us who the converter is, because changeling.

[4maskwolf]

Tack: Did you read what I wrote directly above you?

[4maskwolf]

EBWOP: wait, roleblock comes first.  Damn.

[Leafsnail]

4mask: I agree with a lot of your reasoning in that post, but the logical conclusion to it is really to lynch MOWE (Jack would not be a bad kill target at all, though).  If we hit the converter today we don't have to worry about the scum attempting to pull any bullshit in the night (my recycle is good, but now I've claimed it's not infallible), and we can basically inspect the shit out of everyone at leisure.

Also, can anyone prove that MOWE is lying or telling the truth?

Yes, please see my posts re: her claim.  No-one has explained her first post in day two yet.

And leafy, but you are scum, are you not?

No.

Also, I would like to note that even after you recycled Tack, there are still two infalliable alignment cops in play.  Assuming that he was an infalliable alignment cop.  I do see it is likely that Jack is a scumbiscuit.

There are two infallible alignment cops in play, yes.  But on the other hand...

Santa
Santa

Considering the timing of the claim I think it's highly likely that it was opportunistic

[4maskwolf]

hmm...
Let's see...
I still think we can kill Jack, and if he's scum heap roleblocks and shit on MOWE.  People will have to change their abilities a bit, but it'll all work out.  I don't really feel like launching a nightkill unless I have proof of scumminess or we are in a desperate situation.

[TheDarkStar]

If someone is getting bussed tonight, it should probably be with someone who we know or highly suspect is scum (Objective, maybe LS) to avoid a kill or convert having a negative effect on us.

[4maskwolf]

If someone is getting bussed tonight, it should probably be with someone who we know or highly suspect is scum (Objective, maybe LS) to avoid a kill or convert having a negative effect on us.

ehem.

Is anybody but leafy going to pay attention to what I said?

[Tack]

Lynch MOWE

Not until Jim reveals his surprise.

Jim, Tawarochir
Claim


(Actually I'm starting to get a vibe that Tawa is the converter...
Lemme go backtrack and see if there's a logical reason for it.

[Leafsnail]

I'm confused at the Jack flips scum -> MOWE is the converter logic.  The case on MOWE doesn't really have anything to do with Jack.

[4maskwolf]

I'm confused at the Jack flips scum -> MOWE is the converter logic.  The case on MOWE doesn't really have anything to do with Jack.

Because if Jack flips scum, that lends some credence to your words.  Either way, MOWE can be under suspicion, I suppose, but that's not all that relevant right now.

[TheDarkStar]

Lynch MOWE

Not until Jim reveals his surprise.

Jim, Tawarochir
Claim


(Actually I'm starting to get a vibe that Tawa is the converter...
Lemme go backtrack and see if there's a logical reason for it.

There are two reasons that I can see. 1. He (and Objective (which was why I suspected him) and maybe LS (I'd have to check that)) did not have a reason to vote P-Luke day 1. Everyone else did. 2. Also, he hasn't been contributing at all; he has also refused to claim.

[Jim Groovester]

I'm a Magnetic Miller Prolific Santa. I targeted Jack A T and Leafsnail. I didn't care too much who I targeted since the whole point of this build is to get powers for myself, but my reads on them were town. Sadly they both received my gifts in the night and I got nothing.

I was waiting to see if somebody silly was going to claim Prolific since I'm the only person who has it.

Spoiler: Jim Groovester (click to show/hide)

Santa
Prolific
Miller
Magnetic

Spoiler: Tiruin (click to show/hide)

Protect
Free on Protect
Inflate
Miller
Magnetic
Blatant
Dense

Tiruin, you claimed to have inflated kill resurrect, which is utterly impossible given your claim since you could not have targeted MyOwnWorstEnemy and used inflate in the same night since you do not have Prolific. Why are you lying?

Also, why did you not attempt to use your second protect during Night 1?

Spoiler: mastahcheese (click to show/hide)

Scan
Sap
Day on Scan
Day on Sap
Free on Scan
Free on Sap
Miller
Hardcore
Unable to Vote

Spoiler: Tack (click to show/hide)

Infallible Role Cop*
Blatant

*Recycled, sapped by Leafsnail

Spoiler: NativeForeigner (click to show/hide)

Fortune Teller
Bloodthirsty

Spoiler: Leafsnail (click to show/hide)

Sap
Day on Sap
Recycle
Hardcore
Miller

Unclaimed Santa Gift

Leafsnail, why didn't you claim the gift you had received during the night in your initial role claim?

Spoiler: Jack A T (click to show/hide)

Flavour Inspect
Day on Flavour Inspect
Bloodthirsty
Count
Miller
Blatant

Unclaimed Santa Gift

Spoiler: TheDarkStar (click to show/hide)

Originally:
Changeling
Mercenary
Miller
Dense
Hardcore

Currently:
Protect
Sap
Innocent

Spoiler: Obvscum I mean Objective (click to show/hide)

Originally:
Protect
Sap
Bloodthirsty

Currently:
Changeling
Hardcore
Dense
Mercenary

I think it's beyond obvious that you're scum so there's no point in even discussing it. You took Innocent, and you also didn't get TheDarkStar's Miller.

CASE CLOSED

Spoiler: 4maskwolf (click to show/hide)

Kill
Miller
Blatant
Unable to Vote
Clearminded
Unstoppable

4maskwolf, are Clearminded and Unstoppable your two autos at the end of Night 1

Spoiler: MyOwnWorstEnemy (click to show/hide)

Infallible Alignment Cop

MyOwnWorstEnemy, why didn't you buy anything at the start of the game like literally everybody else did?

Spoiler: Deathsword (click to show/hide)

Miller

Everything else unclaimed

Spoiler: Tawarochir (click to show/hide)

Not Miller

Everything else unclaimed

Spoiler: Fortune Teller Results (click to show/hide)

POWERS
Changeling
Convert
Count
Flavour Inspect
Fortune Teller
Hide
Inflate
Infallible Alignment Cop
Infallible Alignment Cop
Kill
Protect
Protect
Protect
Recycle
Santa
Santa
Sap
Sap
Sap
Scan

AUTOS
Bloodthirsty
Bloodthirsty
Bloodthirsty
Clear Minded
Clear Minded
Day
Day
Day
Day
Free
Free
Free
Immune to Night Kills
Innocent
Innocent
Prolific
Unstoppable

FLAWS
Blatant
Blatant
Blatant
Blatant
Dense
Dense
Dense
Hardcore
Hardcore
Hardcore
Hardcore
Magnetic
Magnetic
Magnetic
Mercenary
Miller
Miller
Miller
Miller
Miller
Miller
Unable to vote
Unable to vote

I didn't count anything Objective said when I crossed stuff off the list because he's obvscum.

Red means an extra claim than there should be.

I'm going to catch up and read some stuff and make a post again.

Lynch MOWE

Not until Jim reveals his surprise.

NO U

Jim, Tawarochir
Claim

NO F U

[4maskwolf]

Jim:
one, you did Tiruin's thing wrong.  She used her free protect and her normal inflate, not her normal protect.  One can do that.  Read the rules.

Two: yes, and at the beginning of day one.  My powers haven't changed.

I still say we lynch Jack.  If he is town, then we have two momentarily confirmed townies.  If he is scum, then everything is thrown into question.