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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #585 on: June 02, 2014, 01:06:28 pm »

... I want a baneblade... A Leman Russ, at least? A Sentinel? Or maybe a little Chimaera?

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Since I have the Hunterbot CPU already, how much would it cost to have a standard robobody outfitted with it and supporting computer hardware? And how would that thing work mechanics-wise?
 
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #586 on: June 02, 2014, 01:21:47 pm »

Pyro, would Simus be willing to build a test model of the Halberd for field testing?

I will put it thus - you still have that thing equivalent in size to an Avatar. Cut it down to something that might be more appropriate for the quoted cost and practicality (that is, somewhat smaller than a battlesuit if you want it to have the dexterity and agility you think it has - and not be a massive target, passive and/or reactive armour or not), and you'll have to contact Simus IC. We do have free communications with the Sword, after all.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #587 on: June 02, 2014, 01:43:05 pm »

Updated.

"Halberd"Rapid Battle Unit
Cost: 15 tokens. 5 for individual weapons.
Armour: Electro Reactive Armour and/or Thinned Battle suit plate
Height: Around 13 ft (how many meters is that?) tall for most configurations.
Weapons: 1 Coilgun or equivalent rapid fire weapon along with a choice of either a under barrel rocket launcher or a bayonet type weapon. 1 mech scale dagger or sword type weapon for melee. 2x shoulder blades or 2x Gauss cannon or 1x Gauss cannon and 1x Shoulder blade. 1 optional wrist mounted shield made of battle suit plate.

Movement: Roller blade style system mounted on feet to allow for quick movement across most surfaces with ability to be stowed inside the feet to allow for movement on rougher surfaces such as a wreckage strewn fields or mountains.
Cargo: 1 Pilot and/or AI controlled.
Support: Auto repair kit.

Operation: This configuration is designed to rapidly engage enemy forces while being supported by other Halberds and other friendly units including infantry and air support. And if equipped with a under barrel rocket launcher, it can engage enemy armour units if it has to.

Advantages: Speed, adaptability and same basic parts used in all configuration.
Disadvantages: not as heavily armoured as units such as a battlesuit.

PW, how much of a difference in cost is this setup?

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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #588 on: June 02, 2014, 02:19:15 pm »

With actual mockup wars if need be. I mean, the dead Sod bodies can be recycled back into the 'pits, right?
Even if we ignore the damage to the landscape and equipment, and assume a 100% reclamation rate, our flesh pits have a finite output (which is why Project Asartes will be using homunculli rather than full sods if nonhuman subjects are unsuitable for initial testing stages). We'll lose the time.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #589 on: June 02, 2014, 02:36:24 pm »

What about using the Organo-tissue Dominator Psychokinetic Amplifier to transform, rather than create something? For example, how hard would it be to transform a tiger into a lion?

What about changing some physical properties? For example, how hard would it be to make one's skin supertough by changing it into some kind of advanced polymer?

Could you use the Organochemistry Overrider Psychokinetic Amplifier to achieve effects similar to the above by very very slowly (some weeks perhaps) manipulating the DNA of the entire body and then triggering some sort of cellular regeneration to replace all old cells with new ones (that will have the modified structure resulting from the new DNA)? Essentially something similar to Ivan's transformation but more slow and controlled?

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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #590 on: June 02, 2014, 03:48:19 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #591 on: June 02, 2014, 03:58:30 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #592 on: June 02, 2014, 04:26:26 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.

He's trying to make something cheaper, lighter, and faster than the battlesuit - so 'large exosuit' size range is perfect for it.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #593 on: June 02, 2014, 04:37:11 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.

He's trying to make something cheaper, lighter, and faster than the battlesuit - so 'large exosuit' size range is perfect for it.
It's still possible to make a cheaper, lighter, and faster battlesuit by still keeping the battlesuit and making it cheaper, lighter, and faster. Reducing the size will mean a lot less space remains for the suit's workings because of the pilot.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #594 on: June 02, 2014, 04:40:55 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.

He's trying to make something cheaper, lighter, and faster than the battlesuit - so 'large exosuit' size range is perfect for it.
It's still possible to make a cheaper, lighter, and faster battlesuit by still keeping the battlesuit and making it cheaper, lighter, and faster. Reducing the size will mean a lot less space remains for the suit's workings because of the pilot.
Pretty much this.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #595 on: June 02, 2014, 05:12:12 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.

He's trying to make something cheaper, lighter, and faster than the battlesuit - so 'large exosuit' size range is perfect for it.
It's still possible to make a cheaper, lighter, and faster battlesuit by still keeping the battlesuit and making it cheaper, lighter, and faster. Reducing the size will mean a lot less space remains for the suit's workings because of the pilot.
Pretty much this.

Going by what Tavik posted he wants (though I'm interested in what his 'Auto Repair Kit' consists of), 7-8 feet is more than enough space. And, keep in mind - if you have it battlesuit-sized, then you have to deal with the fact that you have a battlesuit-sized target with nowhere near battlesuit-scale protection.
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #596 on: June 02, 2014, 05:21:00 pm »

Tavik, try 7-8 feet.
7-8 feet sounds like a large exosuit. Battlesuit seems fine with 10.

He's trying to make something cheaper, lighter, and faster than the battlesuit - so 'large exosuit' size range is perfect for it.
It's still possible to make a cheaper, lighter, and faster battlesuit by still keeping the battlesuit and making it cheaper, lighter, and faster. Reducing the size will mean a lot less space remains for the suit's workings because of the pilot.
Pretty much this.

Going by what Tavik posted he wants (though I'm interested in what his 'Auto Repair Kit' consists of), 7-8 feet is more than enough space. And, keep in mind - if you have it battlesuit-sized, then you have to deal with the fact that you have a battlesuit-sized target with nowhere near battlesuit-scale protection.
I remember the auto repair kit being mentioned earlier near the start of this thread.

Edit: it's used in one or two of smurfs creations. So you should ask him
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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #597 on: June 02, 2014, 06:03:46 pm »

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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #598 on: June 02, 2014, 06:21:52 pm »

Pyro is simply making suggestions. He can't abuse his authority because he has no authority. He can't ban people from posting in the thread, asking piecewise and trying things. Simus on the other hand is responsible for what gets developed on Hephaestus and Pyro made the very reasonable statement that Simus would prefer to have this tested and optimized before she dedicated any resources to this and that he has to contact Simus IC if he wants this to be tested on Hephaestus. There's no problem here.

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Re: TINKER: Saint's Death Warrant
« Reply #599 on: June 02, 2014, 06:37:12 pm »

As long as I get a human to pilot it during testing.
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