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[Radio Controlled]

I'll never understand the desire to make everything complicated.

Then tell us what it should be, according to you, for it to be simple yet unambiguous?

[Twinwolf]

It's more that Miya decided that tokens go to the fund upon death, and he ought to have the position to have it be the rule. Of course, Steve can always overrule him, so you can always ask. Next to that, I also have mentioned before that having a will means you can indeed leave stuff to people (Miya won't then take those tokens/equipment anyway, even though he probably could) instead of to the fund, but that needs to be 'made public' beforehand in some way. Or Steve/Miya need to know about it beforehand at least (so no telling who should get what in ooc after char death).

Good to know. If Petra survives and makes it back, she will inform Miya that if she dies, all of her salvageable equipment and tokens go to her sibling that will be immediately taken out of stasis.

[Radio Controlled]

It's more that Miya decided that tokens go to the fund upon death, and he ought to have the position to have it be the rule. Of course, Steve can always overrule him, so you can always ask. Next to that, I also have mentioned before that having a will means you can indeed leave stuff to people (Miya won't then take those tokens/equipment anyway, even though he probably could) instead of to the fund, but that needs to be 'made public' beforehand in some way. Or Steve/Miya need to know about it beforehand at least (so no telling who should get what in ooc after char death).

Good to know. If Petra survives and makes it back, she will inform Miya that if she dies, all of her salvageable equipment and tokens go to her sibling that will be immediately taken out of stasis.

How would she know she has a sibling in stasis? Next tot that, that's rather obvious meta.

[Hapah]

I'll never understand the desire to make everything complicated.

Then tell us what it should be, according to you, for it to be simple yet unambiguous?

When you die your tokens are forfeit, flesh-Voltron being a possible exception since the component people did not "die".

[Twinwolf]

It's more that Miya decided that tokens go to the fund upon death, and he ought to have the position to have it be the rule. Of course, Steve can always overrule him, so you can always ask. Next to that, I also have mentioned before that having a will means you can indeed leave stuff to people (Miya won't then take those tokens/equipment anyway, even though he probably could) instead of to the fund, but that needs to be 'made public' beforehand in some way. Or Steve/Miya need to know about it beforehand at least (so no telling who should get what in ooc after char death).

Good to know. If Petra survives and makes it back, she will inform Miya that if she dies, all of her salvageable equipment and tokens go to her sibling that will be immediately taken out of stasis.

How would she know she has a sibling in stasis? Next tot that, that's rather obvious meta.

She and her sister were both taken off. She had other siblings of age. It stands to reason that she and her sister weren't the only ones.

[Radio Controlled]

I'll never understand the desire to make everything complicated.

Then tell us what it should be, according to you, for it to be simple yet unambiguous?

When you die your tokens are forfeit, flesh-Voltron being a possible exception since the component people did not "die".

So, they cannot be looted from your body? And they have no physical manifestation? Or do they loose their value on char death? And so you cannot steal tokens from a character?

It's more that Miya decided that tokens go to the fund upon death, and he ought to have the position to have it be the rule. Of course, Steve can always overrule him, so you can always ask. Next to that, I also have mentioned before that having a will means you can indeed leave stuff to people (Miya won't then take those tokens/equipment anyway, even though he probably could) instead of to the fund, but that needs to be 'made public' beforehand in some way. Or Steve/Miya need to know about it beforehand at least (so no telling who should get what in ooc after char death).

Good to know. If Petra survives and makes it back, she will inform Miya that if she dies, all of her salvageable equipment and tokens go to her sibling that will be immediately taken out of stasis.

How would she know she has a sibling in stasis? Next tot that, that's rather obvious meta.

She and her sister were both taken off. She had other siblings of age. It stands to reason that she and her sister weren't the only ones.

Still, obvious meta. And it might lead to people claiming their whole extensive family was taken so they can keep their stuff over multiple characters, and that's probably not what we want.

[Hapah]

I'll never understand the desire to make everything complicated.

Then tell us what it should be, according to you, for it to be simple yet unambiguous?

When you die your tokens are forfeit, flesh-Voltron being a possible exception since the component people did not "die".

So, they cannot be looted from your body? And they have no physical manifestation? Or do they loose their value on char death? And so you cannot steal tokens from a character?

I'll just answer "yes". It's book-keeping. Don't make it any more complicated than it needs to be.

[Unholy_Pariah]

Ihate to agree with radio but i really dont know about the whole "leaving possessions to your next character" lark.

I mean i did it waaay back when i started, but my character died before even getting to a mission briefing and even then i only took my previous characters "bat-helmet" and left the rest of my gear to be reclaimed by the Armory Master.

Just feels cheap to me if new characters suddenly start popping up with 10 tokens, a mkII and a half empty laser rifle before they even exit the stasis room.

[Radio Controlled]

I'll never understand the desire to make everything complicated.

Then tell us what it should be, according to you, for it to be simple yet unambiguous?

When you die your tokens are forfeit, flesh-Voltron being a possible exception since the component people did not "die".

So, they cannot be looted from your body? And they have no physical manifestation? Or do they loose their value on char death? And so you cannot steal tokens from a character?

I'll just answer "yes". It's book-keeping. Don't make it any more complicated than it needs to be.

It does matter somewhat, cause it defines what things you can and cannot do with them. If they're incorporeal, you cannot, say, try to steal them from teammates, thus limiting game options. Not saying it's bad that this would become impossible, just that one needs to know so he can know what is and isn't possible in-game.

Ihate to agree with radio but i really dont know about the whole "leaving possessions to your next character" lark.

I mean i did it waaay back when i started, but my character died before even getting to a mission briefing and even then i only took my previous characters "bat-helmet" and left the rest of my gear to be reclaimed by the Armory Master.

Just feels cheap to me if new characters suddenly start popping up with 10 tokens, a mkII and a half empty laser rifle before they even exit the stasis room.

Love you to baby <3

[Twinwolf]

Ihate to agree with radio but i really dont know about the whole "leaving possessions to your next character" lark.

I mean i did it waaay back when i started, but my character died before even getting to a mission briefing and even then i only took my previous characters "bat-helmet" and left the rest of my gear to be reclaimed by the Armory Master.

Just feels cheap to me if new characters suddenly start popping up with 10 tokens, a mkII and a half empty laser rifle before they even exit the stasis room.

Fair point. Also, Petra doesn't know that she can leave a will, so there's that. If she does find out, she's doing that, but otherwise it would be meta-gamey to do so.

[Harry Baldman]

I say you ought to outlaw inheritance on grounds of cheapness since having an unending stream of convicted next of kin is far too cheesy to permit.

And also once you guys figure out what a token is it might be good to put that on the wiki someplace so nobody has to look for references in the OOC thread later.

[Radio Controlled]

Yeah, but I didn't want to forbid people from leaving stuff to other chars in case one, for example, wants to say person B can have his stuff on death in exchange for a token loan. Maybe we'll limit it to leaving things to chars not currently in stasis?

[Beirus]

I think everybody should get one. And when they inevitably fail, Steve decides your genetic line isn't worth it and incinerates the rest of your in-stasis relatives.

[Harry Baldman]

Yeah, but I didn't want to forbid people from leaving stuff to other chars in case one, for example, wants to say person B can have his stuff on death in exchange for a token loan. Maybe we'll limit it to leaving things to chars not currently in stasis?

Ah, good point. I would indeed agree that only purely hypothetical individuals should be disallowed to inherit anything.

[spazyak]

And so Cthunkan willingly weakens itself for no obvious reason. Long live Cthunkan.
I'm waiting for PW to drop the other shoe of 'you now get 1.5 mental levelups per mission. Have fun!'

(The remaining minds no longer have a strong Con or Aux score to work with. For their next trick, they will remove either their ability to use Exo, Uncon or med competently, some of their general knowledge of the world, or their ability to use Aux without it blowing up in their face.

At least their handiwork score is safe. For now. Assuming two of them don't die off next turn. )

med and exo, then I'm probably going to be better off but I don't trust in that enough.