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Author Topic: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO  (Read 2548407 times)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15690 on: April 11, 2015, 10:28:52 pm »

Cheaper MK.IIs should be very common after this mission, thanks largely to the guy you're talking to.  Mk.IIs cost five tokens, and I think get three sold to the AM.  MCP.IIs cost only three tokens, IIRC, and don't really lose functionality.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15691 on: April 11, 2015, 10:54:36 pm »


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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15692 on: April 11, 2015, 11:05:00 pm »

"...and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts.
Being fleshy has not been proven not to equal humanity, therefore being human must equal being fleshy."

Plus there is the Armory Master who has been considered to be the epitome of successful HMRC service and who made keeping the body intact "fashionable" and highly regarded. I am sure that if the ultimate veteran of HMRC service was a half-cyborg or had a wicked cool full-robot body prosthetic, the number of people trying to keep their fleshiness intact would have been much lower.

(I wonder how much of this "keep flesh" philosophy was actually designed and inspired to existence with Piecewise's world-building effort - the original cam-eyes & synth-body descriptions, etc. - and how much of it is player-driven and not in line with what he had in mind for the setting.)
People actually think the AM is awesome? I felt she was just kind of a Mary Sue that guards the store for no real reason other than being there in case someone actually could do something to threaten the ship in a meaningful way.
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« Reply #15693 on: April 11, 2015, 11:18:26 pm »

The AM is evil.
Sexy, but evil.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15694 on: April 11, 2015, 11:19:34 pm »

I felt she was just kind of a Mary Sue that guards the store for no real reason other than being there in case someone actually could do something to threaten the ship in a meaningful way.
The current theory is that she is literally genetically predisposed to becoming a Mary Sue, and yes that is quite an accurate description.

Interestingly enough, it is the treatments that maintain a human visage that render a person inhuman.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15695 on: April 11, 2015, 11:25:07 pm »

I felt she was just kind of a Mary Sue that guards the store for no real reason other than being there in case someone actually could do something to threaten the ship in a meaningful way.
The current theory is that she is literally genetically predisposed to becoming a Mary Sue, and yes that is quite an accurate description.

Interestingly enough, it is the treatments that maintain a human visage that render a person inhuman.
Ah, so I'm justifyed in not liking her then.
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« Reply #15696 on: April 11, 2015, 11:51:14 pm »

Robot bodies can now have a layer of flesh applied for free for Black Operations missions. They'll appear fat and a have a frozen expression (I guess you could act stoic or blame it on botox), plus if they get grabbed the person grabbing them would notice that they're abnormal. It won't hold up under close inspection either.

We are now looking into other ways, ways that are better at evading detection

Either way, if you want to be a fat terminator that looks like they went a bit crazy on the botox and participate on Black Operations, it is now possible. Though Cael probably won't approve their use unless there is literally no other choice.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15697 on: April 12, 2015, 02:10:13 am »

Remind me again why people are so against being botted?

I never asked for this.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15698 on: April 12, 2015, 03:08:38 am »

Remind me again why people are so against being botted?

I never asked for this.

Well, we could see if we can arrange for vat-grown body replacements, though people probably won't be able to pick the aesthetics. It would be hilarious if offering human bodies increased the amount of robots :P
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15699 on: April 12, 2015, 03:12:47 am »

Remind me again why people are so against being botted?
I never asked for this.
Well, we could see if we can arrange for vat-grown body replacements, though people probably won't be able to pick the aesthetics. It would be hilarious if offering human bodies increased the amount of robots :P

That actually sounds interesting. I will consider that while planning character development.
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« Reply #15700 on: April 12, 2015, 03:14:19 am »

I was gonna offer bodies on the cheap but then
*sniped for mentioning fleshwarping for the billionth time*
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15701 on: April 12, 2015, 03:31:09 am »

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Why did you buy a kinetic amp for your Avatar?

I'm pretty sure both they and the battlesuits have built-in kinetic amp hands
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15702 on: April 12, 2015, 03:35:28 am »

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I'd counter that the IVAN treatment costs five tokens more than the HRB, requires rolls to be effective, and is still less effective at keeping you alive. Can IVAN survive a nuke at point-blank 100% of the time?

If the fight lasts long enough, the Ivan treatment would result in more power though, cause you keep getting tougher. Unless they alpha-strike you hard enough you die before reaping the benefits.

One other possible reason people don't wanna go robot instantly: going robot is free, and always possible (see Pan's deal with the AM). Returning to human costs money (a good deal, I seem to remember). So if for example suddenly a super genemod comes out giving only full fleshies an advantage, the full humans can go for it, or then still decide to go robot. Full robots have less options open (at least, without having to spend money).

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...So what?  If you make yourself extremely happy, and end up losing all motivation, why is that a bad thing?  You don't need to do anything, because you do things to make yourself happy, and you're already at maximal happiness, so there's no need to do anything.  This is really only a circular tautology that you choose to give meaning because it's unusual; There's nothing illogical here, unless you don't value happiness as the only real goal in your philosophy (at which point we can't discuss it because we subscribe to conflicting philosophies).

That said, I'm pretty sure you're wrong.  If you succeed, your brain eventually compensates for the increased level of happiness, essentially making you depressed if you go off the happiness, and normal otherwise.  And possibly something about degrading your brain if you keep yourself overloaded with happiness neurotransmitters for a long time.  This is why a utilitarian philosophy won't break down until we design computers that can feel happiness.

Even if we disregard the second part, there is still the possibility it doesn't pan out. Maybe if one of your life goals is to accomplish something big long-term, but you don't achieve it due to always going for the short-term pleasure, then over time that displeasure/disappointment in yourself might 'overpower' the positive stimulus of the pleasure center activation. That said, this banks on the idea of other sources being able to directly overrule direct pleasure center stimulation, and I don't know enough about brain chemistry to assert this idea's plausibility.

Though, if your mastery of brain processes is even high enough, even if the above is the case, you might be able to disable whatever causes the displeasure. For the individual however, there's a risk: before we know all of the centers that you need to activate or disable to achieve permanent euphoria, you will need test subjects. If the above scenario plays out, these initial test subjects might go into a living hell after the initial euphoria. So for the individual, it's most logical to wait until the technology is perfected (assuming that's even possible). But if everybody did the most logical thing, the technology can't be perfected!

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People actually think the AM is awesome? I felt she was just kind of a Mary Sue that guards the store for no real reason other than being there in case someone actually could do something to threaten the ship in a meaningful way.

Do you have a better way of ensuring that, if people just keep fucking about, or threaten to destroy the game, the gm has a way to stop it?

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Why did you buy a kinetic amp for your Avatar?

Battlesuits do, Avatars don't. As far as I know of.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15703 on: April 12, 2015, 03:38:14 am »

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Even if that's the case, what do you actually need it for? Avatars can pretty munch kick their way through concrete bunkers, so amp hands are gonna be going like small nukes frankly. (the magic of squaring kinetic energy).

EDIT: assuming an Avatar can punch with the mass of 2-3 tons at 80kph, that amp would be putting out

4.444355556 × 10^9 Kilogram-Meters-per-second.

Or in other words, you're not hitting them with a rocket-propelled semi truck.

You're hitting them with 46 fully-laden jumbo jets at top speed.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15704 on: April 12, 2015, 03:40:26 am »

Even if that's the case, what do you actually need it for? Avatars can pretty munch kick their way through concrete bunkers, so amp hands are gonna be going like small nukes frankly. (the magic of squaring kinetic energy)

Because having access to 50 small short-range nukes for 3 tokens is a great bargain?
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