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« Reply #3645 on: March 24, 2014, 04:14:02 am »

I think he refers to the military stationed in Crimea. I doubt they have received many orders at all, except perhaps to please not do anything that could be a pretext for full invasion.
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« Reply #3646 on: March 24, 2014, 04:31:54 am »

I think he refers to the military stationed in Crimea. I doubt they have received many orders at all, except perhaps to please not do anything that could be a pretext for full invasion.
Hmm, yeah, probably. But still, could that not apply to the military as well? If the units are local, and especially if they have local families, could they not be supportive of the new government, given potential benefits?
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« Reply #3647 on: March 24, 2014, 04:34:33 am »

So, our dear acting president announced evacuation of Ukrainian units from Crimea. Just in time!  Why they do everything a week late?

And it remains to be seen if there will be any actions beyond words.
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« Reply #3648 on: March 24, 2014, 06:56:58 am »

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« Reply #3649 on: March 24, 2014, 09:18:10 am »

The petition website is seriously one of Obama's most famously stupidly funny idea. Cannot wait to see the answer to that one.

Give it back to the traitors who overthrew the 1917 government?  Never!
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« Reply #3650 on: March 24, 2014, 09:20:19 am »

The petition website is seriously one of Obama's most famously stupidly funny idea. Cannot wait to see the answer to that one.

Give it back to the traitors who overthrew the 1917 government?  Never!
Replace "traitors" with "double traitors" or "traitors squared"
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« Reply #3651 on: March 24, 2014, 09:28:17 am »

I vote for secession of benefit Holy Mother Russia from at the USS of A.
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« Reply #3652 on: March 24, 2014, 09:29:09 am »

The United Soviet States of Australia? Is there something that you know that we don't?
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« Reply #3653 on: March 24, 2014, 10:59:50 am »

It's the United States Ships of America.  The entire "continent" is actually just a large flotilla of rafts.  Cat's out of the bag now.
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« Reply #3654 on: March 24, 2014, 11:15:41 am »

Sounded like that petition was initially saying seceed it to the descendants of the siberians who crossed the beiring strait thousands of years ago and then changed its mind to give it to the Russian empire.

It was legitimately sold to the US anyhow.
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« Reply #3655 on: March 24, 2014, 12:17:37 pm »

I still can't understand why no resistance exists in Crimea. Either all local units are traitors\cowards or they got an order from a cowardly government. I think the later, because logic dictates that some of the units should have acted in a different way

I get you just watched a chunk of your country walk away from Ukraine. But is it really surprising that no one wants to get shot?

I'm just surprised that you're spoiling for a guerrilla war so much. Because it's behavior like that, which touches off indiscriminate mass killings.
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« Reply #3656 on: March 24, 2014, 12:20:11 pm »

The petition website is seriously one of Obama's most famously stupidly funny idea. Cannot wait to see the answer to that one.

The petition website is genius. Can you imagine how much entertainment he must get out of those? It's gotta be a gold mine for chuckles when the stress of being President gets to be a bit much.
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« Reply #3657 on: March 24, 2014, 12:22:02 pm »

I still can't understand why no resistance exists in Crimea. Either all local units are traitors\cowards or they got an order from a cowardly government. I think the later, because logic dictates that some of the units should have acted in a different way

I get you just watched a chunk of your country walk away from Ukraine. But is it really surprising that no one wants to get shot?

I'm just surprised that you're spoiling for a guerrilla war so much. Because it's behavior like that, which touches off indiscriminate mass killings.
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« Reply #3658 on: March 24, 2014, 12:30:05 pm »

Some people just understand that failing to resist will lead to a catastrophe. I think probability of full scale Russian invasion  before April 1st is very high. Why not if army doesn't resist? Or, more likely, got an order to not resist
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« Reply #3659 on: March 24, 2014, 12:52:52 pm »

Why not if army doesn't resist?
How about "Because it makes no sense to do so"? Or, perhaps more appropriately, "because it's no longer really needed". Why spend the effort on going somewhere, when the aftershock of what's already done can set the necessary stones into motion by itself?
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