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[Mictlantecuhtli]

No, the reason they do that is to make sure they can see what the person voted. Remove it accordingly, and make sure to intimidate the person on their way home to make it full circle.

[miljan]

The CNN ticker said that remaining with the Ukraine (whether as an autonomous state or not) was NOT an option on the ballot and what with the 95%, yeah something's up because as Helgoland said, there are about 40% ethnic Ukranians living in Crimea.

Also, they could have selected only those who definetly supported joining Russia.

According to this: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/files/2013%20October%207%20Survey%20of%20Crimean%20Public%20Opinion,%20May%2016-30,%202013.pdf The vote would have been closer to 50% and looks like a good deal were happy with being an autonomous state.

Opinions could have changed since the protests started though.

Edit: Ukranian ranger beat me to the link, but yes, 95% seems very odd when you include the ethnic ukranians and tatars.

Hmm, than CNN lies (i think).

Here is the thing.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26514797

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine (i think)

No, the reason they do that is to make sure they can see what the person voted. Remove it accordingly, and make sure to intimidate the person on their way home to make it full circle.

Dude  . I mean really. Stop posting nonsense without any proofs.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Hard to get any facts when the only journalists allowed to be around are Kremlin loyalists. This was a vote of intimidation and manipulation, cut and dry. You're seriously saying ~85% of the population of Crimea wanted to join Russia, despite there being a pretty large gap between today's result and the historical numbers.

The only way to reach such turnout %'s matched with a ridiculously high supportive percentage is, in fact, through manipulation.

[Sheb]

Still, you're not supposed to see what people voted. Over here, you have to fold your ballot when you vote.

[miljan]

Hard to get any facts when the only journalists allowed to be around are Kremlin loyalists.

Dude, that is not correct. Anyone from journalists can be there. Stop posting nonsense.

[smjjames]

No, the reason they do that is to make sure they can see what the person voted. Remove it accordingly, and make sure to intimidate the person on their way home to make it full circle.

What's the REAL purpose of the clear boxes then?

Seeing how Putin supposedly got 140% of the vote (so I heard), he is obviously not above rigging votes.

The CNN ticker said that remaining with the Ukraine (whether as an autonomous state or not) was NOT an option on the ballot and what with the 95%, yeah something's up because as Helgoland said, there are about 40% ethnic Ukranians living in Crimea.

Also, they could have selected only those who definetly supported joining Russia.

According to this: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/files/2013%20October%207%20Survey%20of%20Crimean%20Public%20Opinion,%20May%2016-30,%202013.pdf The vote would have been closer to 50% and looks like a good deal were happy with being an autonomous state.

Opinions could have changed since the protests started though.

Edit: Ukranian ranger beat me to the link, but yes, 95% seems very odd when you include the ethnic ukranians and tatars.

Hmm, than CNN lies (i think).

Here is the thing.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26514797

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine (i think)

No, the reason they do that is to make sure they can see what the person voted. Remove it accordingly, and make sure to intimidate the person on their way home to make it full circle.

Dude  . I mean really. Stop posting nonsense without any proofs.

I saw it briefly and the ticker itself was brief. It might have been saying something else but wasn't clear on that fact.

A translation of that poll thing linked would be good.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine

It is but there are a huge but. It is not a status quo option. It gives much much much wider autonomy to Crimea

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Hard to get any facts when the only journalists allowed to be around are Kremlin loyalists.

Dude, that is not correct. Anyone from journalists can be there. Stop posting nonsense.

Where are the reporters in Sevastopol? Note: Not allowed to be Russian state media.

[smjjames]

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine

It is but there are a huge but. It is not a status quo option. It gives much much much wider autonomy to Crimea

Its entirely possible that CNN misinterpreted what that option is. However, with the last poll saying around half wanted to stay autonomous, the 95% is odd.

[Sheb]

Seeing how Putin supposedly got 140% of the vote (so I heard), he is obviously not above rigging votes.

That's bullshit. There was some really weird results in parts of Chechnya and the like but overall Putin was elected with 63% of the vote in relatively clean elections.

I'm not pro-Russian, but no need to spout non sense. Just use the damn wikipedia dammit.

[miljan]

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine

It is but there are a huge but. It is not a status quo option. It gives much much much wider autonomy to Crimea

Than it is the thing I said, in ukraine, but with more autonomy. So there is a option no, but there is no option do be 100% same as before.
Can you translate the warning part ? What does it say?

[Mictlantecuhtli]

http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/ukraine-crisis/story/possible-irregularities-seen-crimea-referendum-20140316

Voters were seen casting their ballots even before the official start of Crimea's referendum on Sunday at a polling station in Sevastopol in one of several possible irregularities.

Journalists including AFP were also turned away at some polling stations in Sevastopol and Simferopol despite having official media accreditation from Crimea's authorities.

These will keep coming. Who wants to deny this vote is entirely a fraud?

[smjjames]

Can someone translate it. I can clearly see  a option to stay in ukraine

It is but there are a huge but. It is not a status quo option. It gives much much much wider autonomy to Crimea

Than it is the thing I said, in ukraine, but with more autonomy. So there is a option no, but there is no option do be 100% same as before.
Can you translate the warning part ? What does it say?

Maybe that's what CNN meant, to stay 100% as before.

Seeing how Putin supposedly got 140% of the vote (so I heard), he is obviously not above rigging votes.

That's bullshit. There was some really weird results in parts of Chechnya and the like but overall Putin was elected with 63% of the vote in relatively clean elections.

I'm not pro-Russian, but no need to spout non sense. Just use the damn wikipedia dammit.

Sorry, no idea where the 140% someone told me came from.

[olemars]

Hard to get any facts when the only journalists allowed to be around are Kremlin loyalists.

Dude, that is not correct. Anyone from journalists can be there. Stop posting nonsense.

Where are the reporters in Sevastopol? Note: Not allowed to be Russian state media.

There are tons of international media there, it's from those I'm getting the pictures and interviews. There was even a norwegian livefeed from one of the voting locations.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

No imperialism here, move along folks.

Maybe I'm just too old, but seeing a bonefide soviet flag pop up after something like this doesn't look too pretty.

There are tons of international media there, it's from those I'm getting the pictures and interviews. There was even a norwegian livefeed from one of the voting locations.

Can you give me a link? And are they reporting from Sevastopol or Kiev?