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[Sheb]

Mict: source?

miljan: The article claims Tatars voted en mass for joining Russia.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

miljan: The article claims Tatars voted en mass for joining Russia.

Mict: source?

There you go.

[miljan]

Hmm, 81,37% people voted, that is a surprise if its true. Does it mean Tatars also voted?

There were requirements to vote; i.e. being supportive or neutral on Russia's occupation.

How I understand it is, will crimea be in russia or be part of ukraine with more autonomy

[miljan]

So, the question is, is the voting results a set up, or did really people voted like that and in that big numbers .

[Mictlantecuhtli]

miljan: The article claims Tatars voted en mass for joining Russia.

Mict: source?

There you go.

https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/status/445157314157215747/photo/1

Correction, looks like they just bussed in voters. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/amid-vote-preparations-in-ukraines-crimea-allegations-of-poll-rigging-intimidation/2014/03/15/1d8b4c54-ac7f-11e3-b8ca-197ef3568958_story.html

And dead people.

http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/16/why-the-crimean-referendum-is-a-manipulation-10-facts-you-should-know/

And pro-russian 'protestors' are the people who control the voting booths/voter lists are made up on the spot.


If it smells and looks like it.. You know the idea.

[Sheb]

But she's holding an Ukrainian passport!

[Mr. Strange]

But she's holding an Ukrainian passport!

Comments say it's "temporary registration ID as a foreigner"... don't know what that is.

[olemars]

Spoiler: Interesting touch on the concept of secret ballots (click to show/hide)

As for eastern Ukraine, it seems clear what'll happen if Crimean leaders have a say

But local politicians here in Crimea are speaking optimistically about expanding Russia's reach into other areas of Ukraine.

During an interview with NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel, Crimea's Deputy Prime Minister called Sunday's referendum "the first step."

"It's the first step. I really think so," the deputy prime minister, Rustam Temirgaliev, said. "I think the second step will be eastern Ukraine."

There's another gem later in the article about the vote:

Later, during a brief interview with NBC NEWS on Sunday, the monitor, Serge Trifkovic, a Serbian-American foreign affairs commentator, described the results of the referendum as "pre-ordained."

NBC News encountered Trifkovic in a downtown Simferopol square, where he said he was on lunch break from his monitoring duties.

"Let's face it," Trifkovic said. "Such referenda are not meant to be lost."

[miljan]

I am not sure how you could vote if you are not on the list of people living there. Not anyone can just enter and vote, he must be on the list when you give your ID number or how its called on english.

Spoiler: Interesting touch on the concept of secret ballots (click to show/hide)

What is wrong with that?

[Darvi]

You can see what the last person voted.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Spoiler: some old polls (click to show/hide)

 

Now think how plausible the result is

[Mr. Strange]

Democracy a la Democratic Russia...

[Sheb]

I've heard stories of people being allowed to register on the spot, letting some vote several times in different voting station.

[smjjames]

The CNN ticker said that remaining with the Ukraine (whether as an autonomous state or not) was NOT an option on the ballot and what with the 95%, yeah something's up because as Helgoland said, there are about 40% ethnic Ukranians living in Crimea.

Also, they could have selected only those who definetly supported joining Russia.

According to this: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/files/2013%20October%207%20Survey%20of%20Crimean%20Public%20Opinion,%20May%2016-30,%202013.pdf The vote would have been closer to 50% and looks like a good deal were happy with being an autonomous state.

Opinions could have changed since the protests started though.

Edit: Ukranian ranger beat me to the link, but yes, 95% seems very odd when you include the ethnic ukranians and tatars.

[miljan]

You can see what the last person voted.

Well, you can and can not, depends how it drops. So no, it does not make it non secret. The practice anyway is to make clear boxes, but when you vote you can fold over the paper, so things like this dont happen.