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[Jim Groovester]

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[notquitethere]

Elephant Parade has replaced Rangercado

Game starts in 6 hours!

[notquitethere]

DAY 1 — THE BLOOD RAIN

In the mabbling plains in the middle of a blood rain, seven theocrats huddle inside the weather-worn skull of an impossibull. It had taken seventeen days to find it, tramping through the mud, sleeping in tight tents and eating too many refried beans. They had squabbled the whole way over what to do about it. Some said to raise it, others said to record it. There were even heretical suggestions that they should ignore it. But by the time they arrived, most believed themselves united in purposes. Not so.

Early that morning the blood rain started. Blood rain is a second tier portent so they all knew that two of their number had secretly performed a Rite of Indifference. An impossibull is a vexsome prospect, but all the strictures forbid Indifference! The theocrats all outwardly agree that they should push someone out into the rain, that they'll vote to decide who, just like if they were back inside the Council Chambers.


Vote Count
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Elephant Parade -
Luke_Prowler -
makeinu -
Persus13 -
Pufferfish -
Superblackcat -
Tiruin -

Not Voting - Elephant Parade, Luke_Prowler, makeinu, Persus_13, Pufferfish, Superblackcat, Tiruin

Day 1 has begun. Day ends Friday 3 PM GMT. Those with roles, send me your actions via PM in the next 48 hours.

[Elephant Parade]

makeinu, did you immediately suspect anybody as the mafia?

[makeinu]

Well, that was sudden!

Nnnnooooooooo? (Not a question)

[makeinu]

Query: is there a reason for the immediate vote?

[Elephant Parade]

Well, that was sudden!

Nnnnooooooooo? (Not a question)

Unvote.

Perseus13, what is the first question you will ask and why?

[Luke_Prowler]

@makeinu: It's a mafia tactic, where someone throws whats basically a baseless accusation to see how other people reaction. Usually followed by an unvote so to at least be fair.

Speaking of which, you seem quite quick to accuse, aye Elephant Parade  

[makeinu]

Oh, I know that. I was merely curious if it was more than that, is all. I suspected not.

[Luke_Prowler]

Ah okay. Just making sure.

[Persus13]

Perseus13, what is the first question you will ask and why?

My first question would be Why are you asking me this? When you ask a question, there should be a goal behind it. Even if the goal is just to get a conversation going or to help you learn Mafia. You have nothing but the words of others to find scum D1. So what is the goal of this question?

Also, if you could spell my name correctly that would be nice (I go by Perses or Persus)

SBC: Glad to play with you again. What are your thoughts on other players?

Luke: You completely new to Mafia? How much experience do you have?

@makeinu: It's a mafia tactic, where someone throws whats basically a baseless accusation to see how other people reaction. Usually followed by an unvote so to at least be fair.

Speaking of which, you seem quite quick to accuse, aye Elephant Parade  

By Mafia do you mean the game or the faction?

Makeinu:

Query: is there a reason for the immediate vote?

In this forum people tend to vote random people at the beginning. It's usually referred to as RVS (Random Vote Suspicion). How was your experience on the Mafia forum previous to this one like?

Tiruin: How do you find out if an IC is scum? THat seemed hard for me in the last BM because the ICs were mostly posting advice. Any tips?

[Persus13]

Edit: I also go by Persus13 of course

[makeinu]

Makeinu:

Query: is there a reason for the immediate vote?

In this forum people tend to vote random people at the beginning. It's usually referred to as RVS (Random Vote Suspicion). How was your experience on the Mafia forum previous to this one like?

An answer is a bit long, and off-topic for this game.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

On the other forum where I play, private communication between players is allowed. D1 almost always consists of behind-the-scenes wrangling to form a town-aligned trust circle, ideally so that an investigator can find a "mouthpiece" they can hide behind to funnel investigations through. Quoting GM (mod) communications is also allowed.

On the public side, there's more of a focus on role playing, jokes, and invariably, a no lynch vote. Given that, the games there really would probably be better off with a night start, but we've never considered that. Most of us have never played mafia in any other setting.

Re: role playing in mafia. Since that forum is tied to an online browser game, we're restricted by the game's rules to a coupe of preconditions:

1) only one game may be run at a time (and that's somewhat grudgingly on the part of the owners), and
2) the games must be thematic to the actual game the forum belongs to.

So, the level give and take here on D1 is not something we see until D2 or D3, after people have started dying and investigations are surfacing. The games typically involve 20-25 players as well, so they frequently last to D8-D10 before resolution, but a strict 48/24 hour day/night rotation keeps them fast paced and RL short, around a month or so.

[Tiruin]

Quickpost because argh collapsed due to fatigue x_x
I am hijacking Jim's post because he does this IC thing direct to the point, and my words cannot surpass what he'd be saying in essence. As far as I know.

For those of you who don't know what to do ... find scum, which is your primary goal.

And because it bears repeating: Your primary goal is to find scum. Everything you do should help you towards that goal. And I do mean everything.

If you're scum, you will obviously have a different goal: Avoid detection until the end of the game. The best way to do this is to look like you are trying to find scum.

...So be bold, and just do the best you can. You're going to play this by aggressively questioning everything you find odd or scummy. This is to get you in the habit of asking questions a lot, since that's how the game of mafia is played and won.

The quote is linked to that post in full.

Also I use italics for general neutral advice. Or humor.
Elephant_Parade

makeinu, did you immediately suspect anybody as the mafia?

Well, that was sudden!

Nnnnooooooooo? (Not a question)

Unvote.

Perseus13, what is the first question you will ask and why?

...While the idea seems reasonable, it looks like you're throwing votes out randomly. While this does reflect the concept of the RVS, it lacks the essence of why the RVS is needed.
You question specific people when said queries may be done via a list, then forwarded to those people. A vote isn't really needed (unless you have more than one) to grab attention. Just bold a person's name and shoot it out.

So I'll ask, why did you unvote and shift on that note? What did you expect his (makeinu's) answer to be?

Persus

Tiruin: How do you find out if an IC is scum? THat seemed hard for me in the last BM because the ICs were mostly posting advice. Any tips?

...You scumhunt them. An IC is no different from you people--they just somehow get a probable fancy way of displaying advice so people will listen, instead of player advice, which is open to scrutiny.
SO Yeah. What I'm saying is that I'm no less invincible or invulnerable to guilt and suspicion than you guys. Check what Imp did last BM. She is awesome. She had characteristics which resembles scumhunting.
Meaning: Scumhunt. You find out if a -person- is scum, when you scumhunt them. Wherein scumhunt is a term.

Why do you ask me such a question, then add a vote? Attention's sake or...?


SBC: Hello luckyblackcat.
I've to ask you a simple question.
How will you value others -in the hypothetical scenario that you're town- in being scum? Will or will not the presence of a role ability shift that viewpoint, and why?


Pufferfish: Take yourself as scum. Are there any significant differences you'd see in your play compared to how your ideal town play would be?


Luke_Prowler Hello there. I would like to ask you something.
Given the lesser time than an ordinary BM, will you adjust your play accordingly? How will you judge the general masses playing with you here?


makeinu: Any questions for the rest? In the scenario where you are town, how would you value voting someone or being voted at this point in time?

[makeinu]

Tiruin: I'm not used to this style of scum-hunting, so I'm really not sure what questions I would ask. So, I'm watching  to see what others ask, and how those questions are answered.

As to voting, I understand the concept of pressure votes, but dislike random votes on principle. I've yet to be convinced of the utility; that may change.