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[Dwarmin]

Obviously I'm terrible at searching for things, because what kind of armour would a sorcerer have? I saw there's a feat they can take so proper armour doesn't have a fail chance. Do they normally have no protection at all then?

I'm still a noob at this.

Well, they don't usually wear physical armor.

But there is items like 'bracers of armor', that are bracers naturally, and give you a magical armor bonus equivalent (and not stacking with), though far more expensive than wearing mere armor would.

Likewise, they can cast mage armor on themselves, which is +4 AC base and lasts an hour for every sorcerer level you have-there's no reason they wouldn't have that at the very least.

In the end, tho, the Sorcerer needs to blow things up before they can eat him.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Having briefly spoken to Dwarmin, I'm also really partial to his single metropolis idea. So there's that, also.

I'll try and summon up a basic campaign write up for us all to think about. We need a longer meeting on the chat, when you get the time.

Not today, then.

Obviously I'm terrible at searching for things, because what kind of armour would a sorcerer have? I saw there's a feat they can take so proper armour doesn't have a fail chance. Do they normally have no protection at all then?

I'm still a noob at this.

Think of Gandalf, Merlin, and Dumbledore. Did they go around in full plate armor, or even chainmail?

[Zako]

Man... I am sorely tempted to make a kobold character of some kind. Not sure what class/archetype anymore since someone is planning to be a sorc, but I am leaning towards something to balance out the party if need be.

[Dwarmin]

All right, so here is my own, very basic idea for a campaign.

It's sort of like my recently abandoned RTD...

D&D 3.5: Oasis

Magic has destroyed the world as you know it.

In the space of hardly a month, the culmination of a war many hundreds years long finally ended in the devastation of nearly all civilizations. The world has regressed back into the primordial chaos from whence it came...

But, there was one place where people managed to hold on. Protected by powerful Druidic totems (an irony not lost the inhabitants) it alone remained safe from the arcane storms which now lash the planets surface. Oasis-the final free city in the wasteland. The city was one of the largest human metropolis's before-and now many races and peoples have come and sought it's shelter, each creating their own districts and areas. Creating a ramshackle collection of living beings, ever growing and expanding-who do not always get along.

Supplies, living space, and food are scarce. Races and creatures fight viciously for land and dwindling resources-predators both beastly and civilized have adapted to this rich hunting ground, and feast well on those unable to protect themselves. Law can only gain the most tentative hold. There is much work to be done, if the peoples of the world are to survive here. Only the bravest of scavengers venture outside of the totems protection into the wastelands, seeking lost knowledge and treasure. Surviving in the labyrinth of city streets is hard enough by itself.

It comes to the efforts of heroes, as always, to undertake these tasks. And if there is still courage among them...perhaps they may find the world isn't beyond saving, after all.

[Harbingerjm]

If it's going to be a living setting, is forcing everyone to use the same city as a home base a good idea?

[GreatWyrmGold]

Each GM could have a separate district?

And the idea sounds neat.

[GiglameshDespair]

Well, they don't usually wear physical armor.

But there is items like 'bracers of armor', that are bracers naturally, and give you a magical armor bonus equivalent (and not stacking with), though far more expensive than wearing mere armor would.

Likewise, they can cast mage armor on themselves, which is +4 AC base and lasts an hour for every sorcerer level you have-there's no reason they wouldn't have that at the very least.

In the end, tho, the Sorcerer needs to blow things up before they can eat him.

This was the sort of answer I was looking for. Cheers, Dwarmin.

Each GM could have a separate district?

And the idea sounds neat.

Yeah, a city is big enough that more than one party could have it as home, especially as chaotic as it sounds.

[Culise]

Agreed; a city could be a lot of fun, and encourages cross-GM movement as well, compared to an entire world; getting from the Narrows to the Docks or the Cloud district is a lot easier than getting from Calimshan to Rashaman (or wherever; I'm not actually very conversant with Forgotten Realms, either).  I'm actually designing the bare-bones around a Strongheart Halfling with some melee class, though I'm regretting one minor thing - almost every small race I can find gets a -2 to Strength, or has some other painful penalty (like -8 INT).  Anyone know a Halfling or Gnome variant that doesn't have this weakness? ;_;

((The alternative idea was an awakened animal who fakes being a familiar alongside a cohort rogue who fakes being a spellcaster.))

[scriver]

In practise a small creature with -2 STR evens out to just a -1 to damage, since they gain +1 to hit from being small.

[Deep Waters]

Wow, lots more interest than I expected. Not that I didn't think you'd get any interest, Tk. You know I'm up for any game you're gm'ing.

Culise: afaik, all small races get a penalty to STR due to their size. I don't believe you'll find any that don't. your best bet is to probably just put in a higher score-- actually an STR 16 halfling would be pretty awesome, now that i think about it. like that half-orc wizard i made once.
scriver: that seems to be a really big oversimplification, since in dnd there are a lot of other factors involved. magic. DR (fucking DR). if the creatures don't have very high AC they wouldn't be dodging your attacks anyway, etc. etc. plus, aren't small characters supposed to use small weapons, which are like one die below medium weapons in terms of damage? i've never played a small character so i can't really be sure, but that seems to make sense.

[scriver]

It's an oversimplification, of course. It was mostly regarding the effects of the -2 to STR, not counting in the other stuff related to small size.

Also posting to watch.

[sjm9876]

As a D&D newb, would a barbarian/druid have too much overlap to be worth not going pure druid? I have very fond memories of my half-orc barbarian7/druid13 in neverwinter nights but not sure if it would be feasible in actual D&D.

[Deep Waters]

As a D&D newb, would a barbarian/druid have too much overlap to be worth not going pure druid? I have very fond memories of my half-orc barbarian7/druid13 in neverwinter nights but not sure if it would be feasible in actual D&D.

as someone who has never played either class, i don't recall barbarian or druid having much overlap at all-- not even ability-wise. which is... much worse than having too much overlap. you might wanna wait for someone who's actually played those classes to answer, tho!

[GreatWyrmGold]

As a D&D newb, would a barbarian/druid have too much overlap to be worth not going pure druid? I have very fond memories of my half-orc barbarian7/druid13 in neverwinter nights but not sure if it would be feasible in actual D&D.

Not a single point of overlap, really. The problem would be from the opposite direction. Two bits:
1. MAD, or Multiple Attribute Deficiency, or "Reason #4 Why Monks Suck". A barbarian needs Strength and Constitution, and ideally Dexterity, to be good. A druid needs Wisdom to be good (and things like Constitution and Charisma don't hurt). That is three attributes to keep buffed, compared to 1-2 for most single-class characters.
2. Under-leveledness, which doesn't have a good casual term. If you do that same build, your 20th-level druid will be several levels behind his druidic peers, as well as dozens of hit points behind his barbaric peers. He will be worse at everything, and it is (usually) better to be able to do one thing well than several things poorly..

[sjm9876]

By overlap I meant that the wild shape of the druid could fill the space of the rage.
otherwise, I'll bear that in mind.