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[LordPorkins]

I wish Diseases didnt take so long to treat. Like, i have a few plague doctors just so i can embark, cure diseases then leave.

[nenjin]

I'm making a DOGE cloak with all sorts of thiefy traits on it at the cost of reduced HP, and reduced Virtue chance in low torchlight.

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Thief Doge needs a face mask/bandanna.

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Like so:

[Bauglir]

Due to a series of catastrophic runs of bad luck (though, unlike when I ragequit, ones that seemed basically reasonable), I was left with a level 5 party consisting of an Occultist, 2 Men-At-Arms, and 1 Crusader, all with top-tier armor. So, naturally, I'm basically playing Tanking: The Party, with both the Men-At-Arms dropping the Speed and Dodge buff every turn and the Occultist on pretty much full time healing duty. I'm beginning to suspect that the game's dodge mechanics are occasionally bullshit, though, as some enemies are reliably hitting a dude with 90 Dodge.

EDIT: Then the rest of the mission played out as expected. I guess I just had a run of bad luck in another form. Turns out the party setup is almost invincible, except when it comes up against an enemy party with stress-inducers in the back. Evidently attacks that are purely stress have a very high hit rate (or it was just more bad luck). One Crusader, even with +40% damage, can't chew through the front ranks fast enough, and taking Men-At-Arms off buff duty (to attack rank 3) for more than a turn is ruinous for survivability, with a very low damage payoff. Fortunately the one guy who got stressed decided to have a Virtue this time, which saved my bacon. Would've lost the party otherwise, so I can't complain too much.

[nenjin]

So the game is going to go full release on the 19th.

There's a ton of stuff that's going to get pushed back to post release updates: namely town events, the musketeer (arbalest reskin essentially), the merchant class, and half a dozen other backer rewards are all being pushed to the spring/summer.

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Town Events, Merchant Class Stretch Goals

Quality has always been extremely important to us - especially now as we work through things like the final quests and bosses. In order to deliver the endgame content in a high quality manner consistent with our previous releases, we’ve moved some stretch goal features like town events and the Merchant class out to a post-launch (free) update. These features were stretch goals - unlocked by backers like you - and we want to be able to give them the attention, focus and love they deserve. We are absolutely committed to doing them.

The Musketeer - Adventurer Tier Backer Class

Joining those two features as a post-release update is the ‘Adventurer’ backer reward class variant - recently voted to be the Musketeer by you! A highly trained sporting sharpshooter, the Musketeer has never faced real combat. Rich, arrogant and determined to prove herself equal to the task, she has found her way to the Hamlet.

Our hope was to be able to get the Musketeer done for launch, but we’re working anywhere from 12-16 hrs a day as it is, and this would simply be the straw that broke the party’s back, sending us all catapulting into unrecoverable Afflictions. There simply isn't time to finish drawing and designing it in time.

One thing is for sure: we want to do it right. We were really happy with how the backer-designed Abomination, Madman, and Collector turned out, and we want this class to receive the same level of care. Namely: original sprite art, Affliction/Heroic poses, combat fx, original combat/camping skill names/icons, class-specific dialogue, and of course, a wallpaper!

We’re very excited to get started on the Musketeer, but to do her concept (and your reward) justice, we need a bit more time. We hope you understand.

Other Backer Rewards

With those first updates out of the way, let’s get a run down of all the remaining backer obligations we have and where they are in our schedule.

Cinematic: Although we did not meet our Cutscene stretch goal, we felt it was important to pay off the game’s finale in fine style! We’re pleased to announce that upon defeating the final boss, you can look forward to an ending cutscene that furthers the game’s narrative and hopefully creates a few chills in your spine!

Journal of Your Doom - We are currently collecting responses from the appropriate backers and these will be included with release on the 19th!

Kickstarter Heroes and Kickstarter Trinkets - We sent out these surveys to those of you who backed at the appropriate levels, and you should have seen them by now! We will be including these in the release on the 19th. If you missed the surveys and the cutoff of the 12th (today), we'll make sure to include your hero/item in a hotfix update!

Kickstarter Narration Rewards - These recorded lines will be sent out this week to those of you who backed at that level!

Adventuring Journal - We are burning the midnight oil on this and we hope to have it ready for release on the 19th!

Estate Map - We wanted to do something special with this and beginning in February, Chris will begin live streaming the creation of the Estate map! Schedule details will come after release.

Kickstarter Portraits - Our art team (of one) is still swamped with Darkest Dungeon work, so we will be fulfilling these this Spring/Summer.

Kickstart Signed Backer Print - These are ready to print, but the timeline to get them printed, signed, and shipped will take a few months, so this will be fulfilled by this Spring/Summer.

Art Book - The art book had to wait until we have all the game art completed, which we’re getting close to! Once this is done we will start assembling the book and plan to ship it by Spring/Summer.

Diorama - We are excited to print these in high quality, and they also required us to finish the game art first. We plan to produce these and ship by Spring/Summer. You can still look forward to having the best Desktop Darkest Dungeon Diorama around!

Credits - Last, but not least is the in-game Credits. We are hoping to add these within a week of release, as a hotfix update.

We are super excited to start working on these rewards as it means that the entire adventure is coming to its conclusion. This whole experience has been incredible and we are super thankful for all to you, our backers. Your early support of Darkest Dungeon means the world to us and we cannot be happier, albeit a bit nervous, for the full release next week!  We remain absolutely committed to getting you all of your rewards.

I don't really blame them for missing a lot of their goals for release. They're a really small team and the standard of quality they set for themselves is pretty high. That said....it seems like a lot of time was spent mid-development for things that ultimately became optional or didn't have that much impact. Not sure if all the time last year was really all that wisely spent (I'm sure they could have spent some of that Darkest Cash on more team members but decided not to.) Still, I'm not unhappy with the results. I just hope it doesn't take 6 months before the actual, true, final game is released. TBH even calling it a full release is misleading these days. Games are in a perpetual state of change. Calling it release at this point is just a marketing gimmick and/or so they can say they weren't that far off of their Kickstarter schedule.

[LordPorkins]

RESKINS?!?! OH DEAR GOD NO

[nenjin]

Well it's technically more than a reskin. New model, new animations, probably new barks. Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

[LordPorkins]

Well it's technically more than a reskin. New model, new animations, probably new barks. Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

If they start making skinpacks.... Im gonna need a trip to the Sanitarium.

[Spehss _]

Well it's technically more than a reskin. New model, new animations, probably new barks. Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

So...a junk class with nothing new to add. I really hope you're remembering incorrectly on that, because otherwise it sounds like a waste of dev time.

[LordPorkins]

Well it's technically more than a reskin. New model, new animations, probably new barks. Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

Same abilities and gear though, IIRC.

So...a junk class with nothing new to add. I really hope you're remembering incorrectly on that, because otherwise it sounds like a waste of dev time.

My point exactly.

[nenjin]

They call it a class "variant." Not sure what exactly that means.

[LordPorkins]

Well, if they tweak the stats, make it a sidegrade, im game. Kinda like what Evolves doing. Theres legit interest in that. But the aesthetics are already perfect. Dont mess with a great formula

[Yolan]

So, how is the game looking now compared to say, six or seven months ago? Wondering if I should give it a shot. Last time I played was pre-cove, and to be honest I was finding it a little bit meh. My guys felt pretty disposable compared with an X-com game, and I wasn't really even finding the difficulty to be that hard core.

[nenjin]

More difficult, I think. Heroes aren't as disposable although with the ability to control quirks and get rid of diseases at the Sanitarium, they're easier to mold into what you want.

[LordPorkins]

Dah. I legitimately held a small funeral when my favorite plague doctor died.

[Anvilfolk]

What are people's experiences with builds that don't have healers at all? Or do people find a single healer is enough?

I mean, the Vestal isn't that great. They have an ability that heals 3 points of damage to everyone (useful if you're going against enemies whose DPS is mostly AoE), but I don't find their usual heal ability is enough to keep characters alive against enemies that focus on single targets.

The occultist has RNG heal, which can be 10 (yes please) or 0+bleed (NOPE), but still seems to work better for me on average.

So I find myself having maybe a two healers generally reduces your damage significantly though. Maybe occulist+vestal with some offensive abilities levelled up? This kind of precludes using some really neat classes that need the two back rows.