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[GiglameshDespair]

"That only happens in stories, kid. Real life doesn't has a sense of slapstick humour."

[scapheap]

"Nothing can stop us now. I am invincible. I think we lost them. Nothing exciting ever happens here. At least it isn't raining. It will never catch on. It's quiet... too quiet. This Is No Time to Panic! Smite Me, O Mighty Smiter! I'm going to retire after this. No man can defeat me! Should I stop temping fate yet?"
"Also, patch myself up with what? I used my kit healing the worm over there."

Move to V20
nothing else.

[Rolepgeek]

((Oh, idea. For the sake of clarity and simplicity, I think you should add a rule to Riot, CEDA, and Common Infected. Mob/Horde/Pack/?: If multiple units of this type are in a single square, they are treated as a single unit. Combine the health and damage of all individual units; when health is reduced by a number equal to that of a single unit of this type, reduce damage by a number equal to a single unit of this type.

Or something like that. Also, CEDA Zombies still don't have No Brainer, at least officially. On a similar note, I'd add No Brainer to some of the special infected, mostly the fragile ones like the Spitter or Jockey. Charger and Boomer seem like they have thicker skulls.

I am really enjoying this, however. Probably more than the real game, simply because I'm terrible at FPSes.))

"Hah! I bet it'll be raining once we get outside. I hope so, at least. It'd help with the smell."

[Nerjin]

((Oh, idea. For the sake of clarity and simplicity, I think you should add a rule to Riot, CEDA, and Common Infected. Mob/Horde/Pack/?: If multiple units of this type are in a single square, they are treated as a single unit. Combine the health and damage of all individual units; when health is reduced by a number equal to that of a single unit of this type, reduce damage by a number equal to a single unit of this type.

Or something like that. Also, CEDA Zombies still don't have No Brainer, at least officially. On a similar note, I'd add No Brainer to some of the special infected, mostly the fragile ones like the Spitter or Jockey. Charger and Boomer seem like they have thicker skulls.

I am really enjoying this, however. Probably more than the real game, simply because I'm terrible at FPSes.))

The Horde ability seems like it'd be included in some sort of "DM's guide" honestly. I guess I could just put that down as an actual thing at a later date.

The specials having "No Brainer" probably won't happen. It sorta defeats the purpose of them to me if someone would just spam Pistol/SMG double shots until a crit killed them. Although I might add a variance that stumbles them. I don' tknow yet.

I'm glad you're enjoying yourself though!

[Rolepgeek]

((True. I hadn't thought of that. This might work better for what I was thinking of; maybe have some weapons do triple damage on a crit instead of double. Or, maybe better idea, have the two rifles deal double damage on 18-19, and triple on 20. For me, it was mostly about those rifles; they feel underpowered, at least a bit. Although, with the specials and pistols/SMGs, I think they'd probably die from the normal hits before they died from a crit.))

((I would suggest having a bayonet attachment thing. Or at least duct tape and a knife. Oh, and a shield. Riot shields would protect well from claws and bullets alike. Probably be a primary 'weapon' used in melee, since you can't really swing it over your back(can you?) or use a rifle(Can you?!?). Though, SMGs might work with it, though they'd be inaccurate. A primary/secondary melee weapon to show, like, a claymore or a sledge hammer might be good though. And one to show a fast but small weapon, like a knife or ice pick. And maybe one to be a spear or long pole with a knife strapped one, for a short ranged but still ranged weapon. And finally, I think having bows would be cool. Make it so you can get the ammo back by going near where the things you shot were. Probably do a bit less damage than other weapons, on the other hand, it might have the crit thing rifles have. Similar range to everything though; in close quarters like this, it doesn't matter about a bow versus a pistol. Possibly less accurate, but with an aiming thing. And then you could have a more powerful, shorter ranged, usable in melee version to be throwing knives or axes or something.))

[Nerjin]

((True. I hadn't thought of that. This might work better for what I was thinking of; maybe have some weapons do triple damage on a crit instead of double. Or, maybe better idea, have the two rifles deal double damage on 18-19, and triple on 20. For me, it was mostly about those rifles; they feel underpowered, at least a bit.

A better far away weapon you couldn't possibly find. And it turns out that the rifles can be the most damaging weapon of the bunch. Especially considering that they have unlimited max range and can hit everything within a line. So... yeah. But I do like that idea you proposed and I'll consider that.

Although, with the specials and pistols/SMGs, I think they'd probably die from the normal hits before they died from a crit.))

True but... I just don't know if it'd fit the feel. Specials are supposed to absorb bullets like crazy and force team-work. With a lucky crit or two... They become sort've weak. That's just my feelings though.

((I would suggest having a bayonet attachment thing. Or at least duct tape and a knife.

What would it do exactly? Add a damaging shove? That's basically what the melee weapons do. Or are you suggesting something else?

Oh, and a shield. Riot shields would protect well from claws and bullets alike. Probably be a primary 'weapon' used in melee, since you can't really swing it over your back(can you?) or use a rifle(Can you?!?). Though, SMGs might work with it, though they'd be inaccurate.

Um... No? I don't want to give out something that would make the infected less of a menace. The Bullet Proof Vest already fulfills the "Mitigate friendly fire" role and I would think that the infected would just go to another side of you to attack. An alright idea for a gun fight though.

A primary/secondary melee weapon to show, like, a claymore or a sledge hammer might be good though. And one to show a fast but small weapon, like a knife or ice pick. And maybe one to be a spear or long pole with a knife strapped one, for a short ranged but still ranged weapon.

Have we talked about this one before? I don't think so. Maybe it was something similar. Here's the problem with that. Melee weapons are supposed to fill a very small niche. They're powerful but they have no range. Those "types" might show up as variants though they'd have the same stats as a Katana or Axe.

And finally, I think having bows would be cool. Make it so you can get the ammo back by going near where the things you shot were. Probably do a bit less damage than other weapons, on the other hand, it might have the crit thing rifles have. Similar range to everything though; in close quarters like this, it doesn't matter about a bow versus a pistol. Possibly less accurate, but with an aiming thing. And then you could have a more powerful, shorter ranged, usable in melee version to be throwing knives or axes or something.))

I really like this idea for the most part actually. Bows appeal to me for a decent amount. I'm thinking perhaps something along the lines of:

Spoiler: Bow Prototype (click to show/hide)

Name: Bow
Uses: A weapon that can sacrifice accuracy for power. Has a small ammo pool.
Damage: 30
Max Clip Size: 1
Max Ammo Count: 10
Max Range: Unlimited
Accuracy: 1/5/10/15 at 1-3/4-6/7-8/9
Abilities:
Headshots: This weapon does critical damage when the accuracy roll is between 18-20.
Draw: For 1AP the player can double this weapons damage [60/120/240]. Each doubling of damage requires a +2/4/8 for the shot to hit.
Recoverable Ammo: If the player rolls a 10 or higher on a shot this weapons max ammo does not decrease.
Rare Ammo: This weapons ammo count is not replenished at an ammo pile.

That look alright to anyone?

[GiglameshDespair]

That's getting more and more complicated for stuff that won't really be used. Having a bayonet would render melee weapons useless; riot shields are already partially filled by kevlar. Adding more melee weapons just is, well, kind of pointless. Primary melee weapons would only do more damage against specials, and all ranged you'd have is at most two pistols, meaning you wouldn't actually help all that much. Shot range firepower is already provided with shotguns and the melee weapons all ready in the game.

Bows wouldn't serve much purpose: they're bolt-action rifles but quarter of the strength and you can pick up ammo. And no one's going to sit back while you snipe off zombies one at a time. it just wouldn't be fun. Pretty useless when it comes to hordes as well, as arrows don't typically go though people, unlike sniper rifle rounds. I don't really think they add anything: anything they do other things can do better. It'd be better to stick to an Kalashikov and fire on single shot. Changes are you'll kill a lot more: for each double power bow shot you can fire four AK rounds. Arrows also go a lot less far as a bullet, though I suppose at the ranges the game is that doesn't really matter.

((As a shotgun owner, I know shotguns have a much tighter spread than games portray (such as the impossible spread of the DOOM 3 shotgun) but I can appreciate for gameplay reasons why it is so.))

[RangerCado]

Actions:
Move to S20
Overwatch with dual pistols.

[Rolepgeek]

To keep it simple then; I like the bow. I just do. Crouch, Draw 3 times, shoot and kill. Just because something is unlikely to be used by some people doesn't mean it shouldn't be used. I was mostly thinking of a reach vs. one target but can attack multiple times for one action point for melee weapons, and the riot shield was just an idea for a gimmicky weapon like the grenade launcher or flamethrower are. Reduces damage from some undead, the effectiveness goes down as you face more and more, gives a damaging shove, and maybe prevents undead from getting past you. For forcing bottlenecks and such.

[Nerjin]

Regardless the thing is that right now the bow is just a fun thing to consider adding. I probably won't add it for a long while if at all.

The riot shield and special melee weapons will not happen though cause they wouldn't add anything. Bayonets are out for the opposite reason of adding too much and therefore making melee weapons useless.

I don't know if the grenade launcher and flamethrower would be considered Gimmicky.

[Maxinum McDreich]

Follow group, remaining a square behind. Overwatch.

''I-I'm down to... s-six shots...'' Ali looked nervous, and took up the rear.

[Nerjin]

Survivor Turn
 

Spoiler: Survivor Turn (click to show/hide)

Tick 1:
Ugly Jim reloads his Shotgun
Damon reloads his SMG
Clair moves to X19
Mark moves to T20
Ali moves to Z19

Tick 2:
Ugly Jim moves to U20
Damon moves to AA20
Clair moves to V20
Mark moves to S20
Ali takes no actions.

Tick 3:
Ugly Jim moves to R20
Damon moves to Y20
Clair takes no further actions.
Mark enters Overwatch [Pistols]
Ali takes no actions.

Tick 4:
Ugly Jim crouches [+2 to accuracy rolls/Immune to friendly fire]
Damon moves to V20
Ali moves to X19

Tick 5:
Ugly Jim enters Overwatch [Pump Shotgun]
Damon moves to S20
Ali moves to X20

Infected Turn

Spoiler: Infected Turn (click to show/hide)

Tick 1:
The Pile of Spitter Goo fizzles out.
 

A few seconds of silence followed Damon and Jim’s discussion as the Survivors all silently considered what to do next.

“Well that truck won’t wait forever kids. We better get going. Follow me.”

“Well beats staying here with the dead guys.” Damon shrugged.

“Yeah, I wouldn’t be caught dead doing it.” Mark quipped.

“Uh… That wasn’t very good.” Clair stated as she gripped her shotgun tightly.

“Yeah… I know. Just kinda… Said it without thinking.” Mark admitted.

“Uh guys… I think I only have six shots left. Like total…”

“Me too!” Clair stated excitedly.

“We’re all low kiddo. We might have to resort to swinging our guns if this keeps up.”

“Well at least this hallway’s clear right?” Mark stated trying to keep the group psyched up.
“Is that a picture of a house?” Damon asked examining the wall directly beside Ugly Jim.

“Uh yeah. Has some sorta cross in it.”

“Hey! That’s the sign for a safe-room!” Ali gasped in joy.

“Really? How do you know?”

“Were none of you paying attention when we were heading into the safe room earlier? There was a big painting like this on the floor.”

“Well whatever. Let’s just follow this sign!” Damon shouted as he fantasized about finally being safe again.



 

Dashed Green Line = Open Door
Dashed Orange Line = Open Door
Double Orange Line = Closed Door
Purple Dotted Line = Air Duct [No survivors may enter]
Brown Space = Desks. May be climbed upon at the cost of an extra movement square.
Black Dotted X = Unknown contents
 

Spoiler: Clair Greenwoods/Scapheap (click to show/hide)

Name: Clair Greenwoods

Physical Appearance: A red haired woman with blue eyes and a slender build. She wears a straight jacket(sleeves are ripped to a more manageable length) and jeans made for a lot of wear.

Personality: Depends. You got Clair, the normal, shy one. She has a defeatist outlook. You got Amy, a blood knight who seek out fights and taunts everyone, even her allies. You got Sue, the cloud cuckoo. And finally Uriel, who believe herself above everyone else.

Backround: She been in an asylum for the last 15 years(is now 26) and she think that she got the keys out of the place from a now rekilled zombie, but it was Amy in charge at the time so who knows.

Preferred Difficulty: Normal

Color and Symbol: Red *

Health: 45

Action Points: 5

Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.

Primary Weapon: Pump Shotgun
Primary Clip Size: 3/3     Ammo Count 6/24

Secondary Weapon: Katana

Backpack Slot: Incendiary Ammo

Throwable: None

Pocket: Pain Pills

Spoiler: Marks/Ranger Cado (click to show/hide)

Name: Marks

Physical Appearance: 18 Year old freshman. Has curly brown hair, a skinny build, and an average face. Hes wearing track pants, a white T-shirt, and green running shoes.

Personality: They try to keep morale up without going on with elaborate jokes. They are rather easy going until someone gets downed, then he’s stone colded berserker.

Backround: Marks was just getting settled into his apartment near his college when the outbreak hit. He grabbed a pistol and a few mags off of a dead cop. He ran into the other survivors along the way and is helping them get out of the infected areas best he can.

Preferred Difficulty: Normal or Advanced, if its the deciding vote, normal.

Color and Symbol: A blue @

Health: 81

Action Points: 5

Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.

Primary Weapon: SMG
Clip Size: 8/8     Ammo Count: 18/36

Secondary Weapon: Dual Pistols

Backpack Slot: Health Kit

Throwable: None

Pocket: Pain Pills

Spoiler: Ugly Jim/GiglameshDespair (click to show/hide)

Name: Ugly Jim

Physical Appearance: A huge, muscle-bound brute, Jim has a face not even a mother could love. Tiny, bloodshot eyes glare out from a lumpy, scarred face. The huge, mishapen nose was clearly broken multiple times and set badly. His hair is brown and shaved short. Jim wears a cheap suit that hangs on his huge frame, looking ridiculous.

Personality: Jim is a really, really nice guy. He worked hard and earnestly in an office, when he slowly earned their respect and like. He spent his spare time working in a charity shop and a soup kitchen, helping the less fortunate get back on their feet. Shy and self-concious, he thinks everyone should be nicer to each other.

Backround: When the infection hit his city proper, he was taking a long walk, upset at horrible comments from a group of teenagers. While he was walking, he walked in the outbreak without realizing. Through sheer chance, he walked through without notice, until he found a discarded pistol. Planning to get rid of the thing (it would be dangerous to leave lying about), he looked around properly, and saw what was going on around him. Frightened, he ran through the city streets, until he ran into the other survivors.

Preferred Difficulty: Advanced.

Color and Symbol: A red U.

Health: 66

Action Points: 5

Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.

Primary Weapon: Pump Shotgun
Clip Size: 3/3     Ammo Count: 7/24

Secondary Weapon: Pistol

Backpack Slot: Health Kit

Throwable: None

Pocket: None

Spoiler: Ali/Maxinum McDreich (click to show/hide)

Name: Ali

Physical Appearance: A slim and attractive 21 year old female. Her chestnut brown hair would reach her shoulders if it wasn't in a ponytail.
She wears jeans and a white T-shirt. Black Trainers.

Personality: Ali is scared. Terrified. This was not what she expected to happen. She looks out for her friends, and is authorative when NOT in combat. Once the fighting starts, she tends to panic a little and misses the bigger picture to lead.

Backround: Ali grew up wanting to travel. She worked hard in school for her grades, and then learned languages in university to travel as an interpreter and a side teacher. She enjoyed her life, always smiling and enjoying the sunny places. When the infection hit, she was devastated, seeing her students turn, her friends lose contact with her and everything that made her smile is gone.

Preferred Difficulty: Normal. Can always amp it up if it gets too easy...

Color and Symbol: A purple R.
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Health: 91

Action Points: 5

Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.

Primary Weapon: SMG
Clip Size: 6/8     Ammo Count: 6/36

Secondary Weapon: Dual Pistols

Backpack Slot: Health Kit

Throwable: Pipe-bomb

Pocket: None

Spoiler: Damon/Rolepgeek (click to show/hide)

Name: Damon Berkins

Physical Appearance: Tall and slim, with a tan on his face and arms, and very pale everywhere else. Wears glasses, a sweatshirt, and jeans, with running shoes.

Personality: Gets hungry a lot, somewhat of a devil's advocate, very smart, overanalyzes, poor social skills, good planning and organizing skills, still a teenager(17).

Backround: Damon was going to a convention when the outbreak hit. After an initial bewilderment and frustration at humanity for being stupid enough to let this happen, and the fact that it did happen despite being incredibly unrealistic, he got over it when his parent's friends were bitten. Being from a geek family, they took no chances, and the military friend, Robert, took headshots at the infected but not-dead. They survived for a while until Damon was the only one left, many of his emotions deadened by the trauma.

Preferred Difficulty: Normal

Color and Symbol: A light grey D

Health: 85

Action Points: 5

Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.

Primary Weapon: SMG
Clip Size: 1/8     Ammo Count: 1/36

Secondary Weapon: Pistol

Backpack Slot: None

Throwable: None

Pocket: None

It occurs to me that even with 5 people you’re pretty low on ammo. So hopefully the balance feels fair right now. I sent a PM to Kashyyk earlier to confirm he was still interested. He said he was so I’ll run down how the “Transition Phase” works.

Basically when you enter the safe-room I’ll inform you of a few randomly selected stats and who did the best [Jeffrey will be included in this though he’ll be at the bottom of each chart] and then the difficulty will be set to “Advanced”

Then the game proceeds as normal. Remember no ammo is expended while in the safe-room.

Also, for this one only I went with crossing out the squares you can’t see. I’ll do “?”s again next time because I figured out a way to do them quickly and not take about ten minutes Post production.

[Nerjin]

Finally got around to actually writing down the Crazed Survivor "Infected". Hopefully all that fits. Anyways... yep.

Spoiler: Psychopath (click to show/hide)

Name: Psychopath
Description: Crazed survivors who will attack player characters and zombies without distinction.
Role: Uber-Zombie
Health: 100/200/400 [Normal/Advanced/Expert] [This health is divided betwixt each Psychopath upon spawn]
Damage: 0
AP: 5
Movement: 3 per Action Point above 40 Health. 2 Per action point above 15 health. 1 Per action Point below 15 health.
Abilities:
Survivor: Upon spawning this unit spawns with 1 random item or weapon. When killed this item will be dropped unless consumed by the Psychopaths. Survivors and Other Psychopaths may pick up this item as desired.
Last Leg: When this survivor is incapacitated it dies.
Group Minded: When this unit spawns it will spawn in a group of 1D6.
Crazy Aim: When this unit attacks a player’s character the attack deals [Friendly Fire/2] Damage. Player characters deal full damage to Psychopaths.
No Brainer: Critical Hits automatically kill this unit.
 

[scapheap]

Head to R25
Nothing else

[Nerjin]

Update
-Psychopaths can no longer randomly spawn with weapons that possess the "Rare Ammo" ability.