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Best ship?

AngelxAlistair (Toy ship ahoy!)
- 2 (8.7%)
RichardxCyrielle (Yes, she's a side character. No, that does not make this any less cute.)
- 0 (0%)
MariaxSelinaxYurixNuriel (HAREM)
- 5 (21.7%)
RichardxCamille (The only couple who knew each other for longer than two months. Woo~)
- 1 (4.3%)
AshleyxConnyxNurielxBismuth (OPPOSING HAREM)
- 1 (4.3%)
LylexEveryone (An Uke and five Semes. Go figure.)
- 2 (8.7%)
AlistairxCatherine (Minako, eat your heart out.)
- 0 (0%)
MariaxSelina (The original, accept no substitutes.)
- 1 (4.3%)
LyleXRichard (Too much yuri, not enough yaoi.)
- 1 (4.3%)
IzzyxLucas (Because a normal tsundere is not enough.)
- 1 (4.3%)
WillxStella (*insert witty tagline here*)
- 2 (8.7%)
MariexEveryone (Marie, duh.)
- 2 (8.7%)
AshleyXRichard (Screw retcons, I want my OTP now!)
- 1 (4.3%)
MariaxMattxSelina (The original OT3. And who was Matt again?)
- 2 (8.7%)
Richard/CyriellexFourth Wall (Who didn't see this coming?)
- 2 (8.7%)

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Author Topic: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE  (Read 1010302 times)

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12705 on: April 18, 2014, 08:27:03 pm »

It's only intuition though.
Why would he be able to figure out perfect clones of someone he can't see?
1. He's watching through everyone's bracelets. They can do that, you know.
2. Illusions will never be 100% perfect. Even a god will screw up, making things move a tiny bit wrong, so it's only maybe 99% right. Will's watching for that 1%.
3. The only ways for Zhengara to get it 100% perfect are to either make an actual copy of whatever he's making an illusion of, or to do the illusion on the mental level. If the latter is the case, Will will spot any discrepancies between the versions people see of it. If the former is the case, they're not really illusions, now are they? If neither is, see #2.

Why would that mean anything though?
He could easily fake out Will.
How? Will isn't there. Zhengara doesn't even know he exists.

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Yes, really.
Will watches the battle over the bracelets from his hotel room, keeping an eye out for inconsistencies between what is seen and what is known, or between bracelets, or for any other signs of illusions or mind-affecting effects.
Since Kyle only started this turn, Will was doing that for a full turn before Kyle started. That's not just IRL time, that's undeniable IC time.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12706 on: April 18, 2014, 08:29:48 pm »

Will doesn't know his personality though. No one in the castle does I think.

He's a god of illusions. If he was anything less I'd say sure but he's a god making copies of himself. He can make them perfect simply by changing himself to match them.

And Will wasn't bothering to say anything at that time.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12707 on: April 18, 2014, 09:23:39 pm »

Will doesn't know his personality though. No one in the castle does I think.
He's a god of illusions. If he was anything less I'd say sure but he's a god making copies of himself. He can make them perfect simply by changing himself to match them.
And Will wasn't bothering to say anything at that time.
It's kinda implied by his actions. And even if not, why does that matter?
Even gods aren't perfect. If they were, there wouldn't be a story. Or any ability to figure out which clone is which, because they'd all react perfectly to being attacked. And, really, if you can figure out which is which by attacking, you can figure it out in other ways. If the problem is with reaction (ie, the clone doesn't flinch), then there's ample opportunities from things like feet not quite perfectly touching the floor to blinks in response to bright light being a second late. If it's with action (ie, the weapon doesn't penetrate--which wouldn't work with anything but melee weapons), there's still the dust in the air and whatnot, as well as Will being able to see things like fireballs and weapons going through the illusion.
And that's assuming that Zhen...Zheg...Zhe didn't go with the simple solution and simply project the illusions into peoples' minds, rather than physically making light and whatnot. In that case, he could easily get the person's mind to trick itself into thinking Zhengara (?) was visible in various locations...but each person's image would be subtly different, and Will would notice that.
It was implied.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12708 on: April 18, 2014, 09:26:29 pm »

I think you're just trying to provide reasons for your crumby OP character.

And no, there was no  implication there.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12709 on: April 18, 2014, 09:49:54 pm »

No, I'm really not. You're arguing that Zheg...Zhe...the guy is capable of making perfect illusions that no one can determine if they're real or not, even though there are rules in place for people determining that they're fake. If they can, why can't Will, who has feeds for all their senses plus his power?
And it's not OP, it's simply intended for a non-combat use, while everyone else's is intended for combat use.

Yes, there kinda was. Why would he be looking for that if he wasn't going to report?
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12710 on: April 18, 2014, 09:54:23 pm »

Stop with the arguing. It's pointless and all your going to get is Elf yelling at you two.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12711 on: April 18, 2014, 09:57:08 pm »

This just went full stupid! :V
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12712 on: April 18, 2014, 11:51:00 pm »

*Yawn* You two already argue in-character enough, not surprising considering that you both are projecting so hard onto them half the time I'm surprised they don't just use your usernames, leave it to the @Kansa to make a verdict.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12713 on: April 18, 2014, 11:55:13 pm »

...while everyone else's is intended for combat use.
Ashley's teleportation isn't intended for combat. Sure, it can be used in it, but it's not meant for combat.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12714 on: April 18, 2014, 11:56:39 pm »

...while everyone else's is intended for combat use.
Ashley's teleportation isn't intended for combat. Sure, it can be used in it, but it's not meant for combat.
Yeah, but isn't she also able to generate void weapons? Will (thankfully) can not physically manifest @GWG's argumentative nature.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12715 on: April 18, 2014, 11:57:31 pm »

Spoiler: Lizzie Accalia (click to show/hide)
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12716 on: April 18, 2014, 11:58:04 pm »

Actually, true. She can. Just comes with her void manipulation, though.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12717 on: April 18, 2014, 11:58:32 pm »

Spoiler: Lizzie Beastblood (click to show/hide)
Kyle needs to sleep with her.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12718 on: April 19, 2014, 12:01:43 am »

Spoiler: Lizzie Beastblood (click to show/hide)
Oh great, time to restart the old discussion: if she gets shoved in an armored container she can barely fit inside and she shapeshifts, would it break the container, sending its fragments flying at high velocity as shrapnel?

Actually, true. She can. Just comes with her void manipulation, though.
Yeah, that isn't non-combat then, especially not when she also has brainwave manipulation ontop of that. Will's ability doesn't give him any benefits in combat except intel.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #12719 on: April 19, 2014, 12:03:02 am »

And don't forget the super reflexes.
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