Ok, Leaf, we appear to have totally different ideas on how a decoy works. What I've been trying to point out is that there are too many examples and yet you can't fit them all to the same rules.
So you're saying that yes, Vector deliberately put all those instances of colours into the game, but that she's doing it to mislead us? Why? We know for a fact that there is a puzzle in this game. We know that Vector wants us to solve this puzzle. Why would she deliberately mislead us by hinting at an irrelevant line of inquiry?
case in point, what color is jim?.
I've already said several times that I don't think every player needs to have a colour anymore - my solution works absolutely fine if you just consider me/webadict II, webadict I/Ottofar and you/Toaster. However, I'd say she probably represents all three colours, due to being an innocent girl, an experienced dreamer and a god of death all at the same time.
This is a classic deception technique, similar to looking at a set of inkblots and trying to find a pattern, what their "real meaning" is. the reality is there is no pattern, and it's just a set of inkblots. You're finding images in the clouds.
Again, you are contradicting yourself. You can't seem to decide whether the pattern is a red herring/decoy planted by the mod, or an entirely coincidental pattern that means nothing. It can't be both.
I would say that your previous post provides strong evidence against this idea. Can it really be a coincidence that Vector repeatedly put red/white/black together, and also put in 3 pairs that clearly correspond to those colours?
It's one of the easiest ways to make someone work really hard to trick themselves, like saying to someone, "I'll give you a hint before I say the number two", then slowly saying a series of numbers and clapping in a random, unrelated pattern... while shifting your right foot thirty degrees to the side two numbers before you say the number two each time. obvservers will pay very close attention to the obvious signal which contains ZERO meaning and fail to notice the real, far more subtle, one.
stop listening to the random clapping and look for the real signal.
And now you're back to saying it's a decoy again? Seriously, pick one theory and stick to it. In any case, if you think Vector gave a subtler clue, then what is it? Does it relate to the colours, which we've now established feature very heavily in the flavour? I don't think you can make this argument unless you can say what the real signal is, or at least what evidence suggests that Vector was trying to mislead us with the colours.
You idiotically confused what time period i was talking about in my accusation of Leaf posting a complex idea requiring significant research "too fast". Leaf claimed to have the solution within seven hours of day start, in his first post of the day. yet he said that he needed data that he acquired today to reach that solution. that is awfully fast, especially if you consider what time of day the day started and compare it to leaf's normal activity patterns. leaf had his "solution" within the first hour of his normal activity patterns. He didn't collect any data today, he had it all overnight. so then, why:
PFP I guessed he was bussing when I realized Lenglon was scum earlier today.
He should have come to that conclusion overnight. what he remembers is when he claimed I was scum, not when he did his research. He is more focused on the appearance than the reality.
There's absolutely no contradiction here. I came up with a solution during the night, then obtained a bit more data and did a bit more thinking in the day and confirmed it (while also refining my solution a bit - the original version assumed that all players had a colour).
Leaf: no, really, if you're going to make the case that it would be easier to mark Tiruin as scum than me, then prove it. You said you'd make stuff up to make things look like that as scum, show us an example why don't you? after all, it'll be easy, won't it? you said so yourself.
Why should I? Tiruin asked me a question, and I answered it. I'm not presenting it as evidence that I'm town or claiming I ran some kind of simulation that showed that lynching Tiruin would be easier, I am just stating what I would have done in that situation.
If I wanted to attack Tiruin I'd go down the active-lurking route. She's been asking a lot of questions of Vector, sure, but they've never really gone anywhere or given us any clues as to who is scum. Same for asking a lot of questions that require a lot of effort from other players. There's also the confusion over what her role actually does, and her refusal to claim outright (see: TM7 in which she did that and was a hostile third-party). Lastly, there's the fact that she has nothing even approaching alibi for any night, which is untrue of the rest of us (Toaster was seen by you N4; you had the webadict following N3 which I don't think anyone else would've thought of as a bus; and webadict claimed to block me N2, leaving open the question of where his block went if not me). That's more than enough for me to start a hostile argument with her and generate material. I can't tell you it would have worked for sure, but I can tell you that I'd see it as a good chance.
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