Ok, Leaf, we appear to have totally different ideas on how a decoy works. What I've been trying to point out is that there are
too many examples and yet you can't fit them all to the same rules. case in point, what color is jim?. This is a classic deception technique, similar to looking at a set of inkblots and trying to find a pattern, what their "real meaning" is. the reality is there is no pattern, and it's just a set of inkblots. You're finding images in the clouds. It's one of the easiest ways to make someone work really hard to trick themselves, like saying to someone, "I'll give you a hint before I say the number two", then slowly saying a series of numbers and clapping in a random, unrelated pattern... while shifting your right foot thirty degrees to the side two numbers before you say the number two each time. obvservers will pay very close attention to the obvious signal which contains ZERO meaning and fail to notice the real, far more subtle, one.
stop listening to the random clapping and look for the real signal.
Tiruin, you want to know why I trust you?
to be honest, I'm mostly going with my gut here, you don't "feel" malevolent.
however, I both think that the night action flavor from last night gives you very little time to have done anything to anyone without being spotted, and that your actions today in particular are unlikely to be those of scum, You would have probably picked a side between me and Leaf much sooner, rather than spend so much time questioning toaster, if that were the case.
Toaster, your vote post said you had three reasons:
You idiotically confused what time period i was talking about in my accusation of Leaf posting a complex idea requiring significant research "too fast". Leaf claimed to have the solution within seven hours of day start, in his first post of the day. yet he said that he needed data that he acquired today to reach that solution. that is awfully fast, especially if you consider what time of day the day started and compare it to
leaf's normal activity patterns. leaf had his "solution" within the first hour of his normal activity patterns. He didn't collect any data today, he had it all overnight. so then, why:
PFP I guessed he was bussing when I realized Lenglon was scum earlier today.
He should have come to that conclusion overnight. what he remembers is when he claimed I was scum, not when he did his research. He is more focused on the appearance than the reality.
second, was the part I addressed, and if you don't like my statement of "the behavior that you are pointing out is behavior I have exhibited in every single game I have ever played regardless of alignment, and I invite you to find a SINGLE exception to this, ever." then too bad for you and your inability to understand the textbook definition of a null-tell. what next, are you going to say that the use of "and" is a scum-tell? I've done that in every game I've played too.
third, you complained that my answer to "why am I not dead yet" wasn't rock-solid, and you acknowledged that you were inviting WIFOM when you did so. well shockingly enough I don't know for certain, my best guess is that web didn't want to be caught blocking the known tracker at massclaim. Either way the entire line of questioning relies on WIFOM.
Leaf: no, really, if you're going to make the case that it would be easier to mark Tiruin as scum than me, then prove it. You said you'd make stuff up to make things look like that as scum, show us an example why don't you? after all, it'll be easy, won't it? you said so yourself.