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[Sergarr]

lol no way is that guy a jesus allegory

that would be edgy as shit

this game isn't really edgy

Or so Toby wants you to think...

(it's all a ruse man)

(no but seriously, someone please explain it to me how can this be a mere coincidence, because it's obviously not true, but I'm really at a loss at how to explain it otherwise)

[USEC_OFFICER]

The answer is that this is a mere concidence, but the human mind if obsessed with finding patterns and so you are unable to dismiss it as a concidence. After all, your methodology is rather sloppy (shifting only the first two letters? Applying (4/22) instead of (3/23)?), and is Toby did hide something like that in his game I would expect it to be much obvious/clearly than that. The Gaster stuff was found via fiddling with the game's variables and the symbology/wordplay of everyone's names is relatively clear when you figure them out. Chara = Gfsus is too convoluted to be anything but a concidence.

[Sergarr]

Then how do you explain Asgore being clearly a stand-in for devil, what with his goat-like appearance and the red trident?

He could've chose literally anything else, there are plenty of archetypes for a "king under the mountain" - but no, Toby chose the devil-like appearance and devil-like weapon. Why would he choose it if he didn't want to make a cave seem like an allegory for hell?

And from that allegory, everything else starts to really make sense. Like why Sans is the most difficult opponent in the game - because he's a stand-in for sloth, laziness - your worst opponent, when you're a fanatic crusader (i.e. you on the Genocide route).

It always arrive without you noticing it - hence why he can "teleport" around.

It never goes away for long when you "defeat" it - hence why he dodges your direct attacks.

It always adapts to your mental paradigms - hence why Sans's damage ignores your armour.

You literally need to break your human bounds to finally defeat it - hence why you need to literally break all the game rules in order to defeat him.

Yes, it's probably just a coincidence. But personally, I like that coincidence. It gives some inside on the twisted vision of religious fanatics. Even if coincidental, it's still quite educational.

[miauw62]

Toriel could be interpreted as greed, wanting to keep Frisk with her...?

Also, announcing that they would collect human souls to smash the barrier appeared to me as less pride and more him not wanting to see his people despair for all eternity.
Asgore being the devil does seem rather likely.

other people are probably right, though.
asgore = the devil does sort of make sense, thinking about it... but does it go as far as all characters being cardinal sins...? probably not :v

[pisskop]

the most exciting part of this is were talking about 8-12 yr old Chara and Frisk.

Are all the souls prepuescent children?

[TheBronzePickle]

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I think you're putting way, way too much thought into this. A lot of what you've said has been stretching any sort of reasoning you could be making to the breaking point.

A lot of the stuff you've put together isn't even coincidence at this point, it's setting the goalposts and manipulating the data to say what you want to say. Especially the letter substitutions.

You do make a good point, though. You sound like an ultraconservative Christian talk show host.

the most exciting part of this is were talking about 8-12 yr old Chara and Frisk.

Are all the souls prepuescent children?

That's a distinct possibility. The clothing all fits Frisk pretty well, and adult humans would probably have a much easier time cutting through the underground.

It's also very likely that everyone who fell into Mt. Ebott was trying to escape from something in their lives the only way they knew how: Mt. Ebott is a place of myth and legend, something that would draw in children who don't really have any other options for getting away from themselves.

[Sergarr]

-snip-

I think you're putting way, way too much thought into this. A lot of what you've said has been stretching any sort of reasoning you could be making to the breaking point.

A lot of the stuff you've put together isn't even coincidence at this point, it's setting the goalposts and manipulating the data to say what you want to say. Especially the letter substitutions.

You do make a good point, though. You sound like an ultraconservative Christian talk show host.

I've literally put less than 2 hours of thought into all of this stuff, which does seem way more than I should've.

Also note that I do not believe in Christianity. Like, at all. This is all just some stuff I've invented after I've seen in the news about some Conservative religious person (Pat Robertson) say that Undertale is evil. Then I thought "hey what's the most evil and twisted way I can re-interpret the plot if I was a fundamentalist" and I guess I've succeeded, perhaps too well.

_{please don't take it (the theory) seriously, I was just trying to have some !!Fun!!}

[pisskop]

Look at what undertale is.  Not hard to get fuel for their fires here..  Most Religious talk shows arent looking to understand/analyse their targets, they draw their alegories from superificial remarks.  Like 'Mettaton is a mini-game' is even assuming they even get that far into it.

[Sergarr]

Look at what undertale is.  Not hard to get fuel for their fires here..  Most Religious talk shows arent looking to understand/analyse their targets, they draw their alegories from superificial remarks.  Like 'Mettaton is a mini-game' is even assuming they even get that far into it.

Well the one I've seen was talking about how Sans was clearly evil because of looking like a skeleton. Superficial remarks indeed.

[SOLDIER First]

mettaton > all of our lives

[monk12]

I have a Mettaton-shaped hole in my Mettaton-shaped heart.

In other news, SANS YOU CHEATING F*********

[Willfor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trSY8qEapbU

[Aedel]

I have a Mettaton-shaped hole in my Mettaton-shaped heart.

In other news, SANS YOU CHEATING F*********

Spoiler: stay determined (click to show/hide)

[monk12]

I have a Mettaton-shaped hole in my Mettaton-shaped heart.

In other news, SANS YOU CHEATING F*********

Spoiler: stay determined (click to show/hide)

That's pretty great. Now I'm filled with determination for my actual bedtime.

[Putnam]

Spoiler: Genocide Spoilers (click to show/hide)

Z

i can't even tell you how goddamn mindblowing that Z is.

That's the Z made by Sans as he falls asleep in the final battle of the genocide run.

Look at that font goddamn.

DOCTOR WD GASTER DOCTOR WINGDING Aster.