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Author Topic: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!  (Read 154232 times)

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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #315 on: November 02, 2015, 04:37:36 pm »

Congratz man. ^^^ You did go through the lab and everything right?
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #316 on: November 02, 2015, 04:38:51 pm »

The lab and everything?
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #317 on: November 02, 2015, 04:43:28 pm »

pacifist

didn't kill anyone? open the game again, head back out of the CORE

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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #318 on: November 02, 2015, 04:44:37 pm »

Yeah, there's another date with Alphys you have to go on to get the true ending. Undyne should give you a letter if you go back to Snowdin to talk to her.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #319 on: November 02, 2015, 04:49:11 pm »

Ah, alright then.

E: idea: meet the pyro with MC as pyro and other classes as monsters.

E2:

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I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST ENDING BUT THIS IS VERY OMINOUS.
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Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.

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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #320 on: November 02, 2015, 05:11:08 pm »

I've got an Undertale-shaped hole in my Undertale-shaped heart!
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #321 on: November 05, 2015, 12:08:07 pm »

I was fucking around with Undertale's basic plot in my head and I've made a certain "discovery": most big in-game characters seems to represent at least one of seven cardinal sins as their major character trait:

sans - gluttony/sloth combined
Undyne - pride
Alphys - lust
Muffet - greed
Mettaton - envy
Asgore - wrath
I've got nothing on Papyrus and Toriel, though. I guess pride/sloth?

It's pretty interesting that Undertale's "cave" in which the whole game is contained could be thus easily interpreted as a metaphor for hell, and the true pacifist ending would actually result in hordes of demons monsters brutally conquering the surface after they drop all the friendly masks they donned on while trying to make you complete their plot of breaking the doors of hell by giving in to all deadly sins, while genociding everyone in there gets the whole world to ascend to heaven right away a la Second Judgement, explaining why the world gets "destroyed" at the end of genocide route.

I'm really fucking sure that's very much not the intended reading of the game plot, though. And I must be one fucked up in the head individual for even thinking about it that way.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #322 on: November 05, 2015, 12:11:00 pm »

how is muffet a big character and not napstablook

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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #323 on: November 05, 2015, 12:14:13 pm »

Who's Napstablook, that depressive ghost? I dunno, does depression count as a deadly sin?
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #324 on: November 05, 2015, 12:16:09 pm »

Because some significant reaching is going on to fit characters into the seven sins. Also Undyne is totally Wrath, while Papyrus is Pride. I'm not certain what sin Asgore did, but it definitely wasn't Wrath. He was too reluctant to go out and kill enough humans to break the barrier after all.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #325 on: November 05, 2015, 12:19:25 pm »

His theme is literally Bergentrückung. Sloth.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2015, 12:21:13 pm by Putnam »
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #326 on: November 05, 2015, 12:21:28 pm »

He wasn't sloth, but maybe Pride.  Pride is why he's trying to collect people's souls to exterminate mankind.  Pride is why his wife left him.


I think you're trying too hard to fit characters into these archtypes.  Im sure there is significance to it, but I don't think its as cut and dry as:  Each character is one sin.  Too many characters.  Too many bosses.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #327 on: November 05, 2015, 12:59:46 pm »

I've realized that in the middle already, that's why I've put in "at least one of" clause. Me making dumb mistakes at this point is not unusual, I haven't slept for 36 hours.

No but really this seems to be a thing that should have been talked about since the first days. I mean just look at Asgore he's like literally looking like the devil, what with the BIG RED TRIDENT and general goat-like appearance. I've even seen the comparisons being made, I've just never saw them being logically continued to the rest of the game and game's characters. Probably because everyone were too busy searching for Gaster stuff.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #328 on: November 06, 2015, 10:56:37 am »

Okay, after I've slept for like 12 hours and been awake for half a day, something has been keeping bothering me about what I wrote last. There was something missing, some kind of finishing touch, that would make it more than just an off-the-wall speculation, but what it could be? And then it came to me as a frikking Revelation:

tl;dr Toby if you really did it on purpose you're a crazy CRAZY bastard by trolling everyone with obvious "Gaster" bait while hiding the real Final Mystery of the Undertale on the FRIKKING SURFACE.
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Re: Undertale: Its dangerous to go alone, take Spoilers
« Reply #329 on: November 06, 2015, 11:01:49 am »

lol no way is that guy a jesus allegory

that would be edgy as shit

this game isn't really edgy
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