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[Putnam]

warning: i cried for the first time in a good few years because of this game

It is weird but this is probably one of the few games where the "kill everyone" side is probably more interesting in my opinion.

The only other game like that was Soul Nomad where the "Demon Mode" had 10 times the better writing and made you wonder where the heck the writing was when you played the game through the first run.

Though... the "love everyone" side is a lot more funny.

I'm pretty sure the tone shift is intentional.

[quinnr]

Man, I didn't go into this knowing what to expect, but this got dark.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The moment when Asgore shatters your Mercy button. That's...way too intense. I'm having a lot of trouble with this fight though...I got him talked down so he does less damage, but man he still hurts. Got him to like a third health as my best try so far. Can't be much worse than Metaton Ex.

The whole game is giving me a very Cave Story-esque vibe. Especially the final boss..

Spoiler: Context, Minor Undertale spoilers (click to show/hide)

In Cave Story, the (secret, actual) final boss has a quote before you fight..."Now kill me...or I shall kill YOU." They also have a ton of bunny creatures in that game, too.

EDIT: WTF that ending wtf
EDIT2: WTF.

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EDIT3: WTF. It's too late for this someone send help.
EDIT4: I AM CRYING. NOT TEARS OF SADNESS. TEARS OF FEAR. IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE.
EDIT5: I'm going to have nightmares for weeks and this flower needs to stop being alive. Why did I click the mercy button so many times?

[Putnam]

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EDIT3: WTF. It's too late for this someone send help.
EDIT4: I AM CRYING. NOT TEARS OF SADNESS. TEARS OF FEAR. IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE.
EDIT5: I'm going to have nightmares for weeks and this flower needs to stop being alive. Why did I click the mercy button so many times?

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No, you should definitely spare him.

[quinnr]

Okay, so I've finally finished the "true" ending and I'm putting this down as best game this year so please go pick it up if you are able. I really didn't think I was going to like it, but missing out would have been a serious mistake. So many feelings, and the gameplay is good, too.

I need time to recover before I go through as a genocidal maniac.

Also, the game takes only about 6 hours to play, if you aren't terrible at videogames
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EDIT3: WTF. It's too late for this someone send help.
EDIT4: I AM CRYING. NOT TEARS OF SADNESS. TEARS OF FEAR. IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE.
EDIT5: I'm going to have nightmares for weeks and this flower needs to stop being alive. Why did I click the mercy button so many times?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

No, you should definitely spare him.

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Yeah, currently working on his recommendations to befriend Undyne. This game just gives me so many emotions in every direction, it's crazy. Like, we've got sadness, cheer, hilarity, terror, and utter horror all in one game, it's actually kind of amazing.

EDIT: I've been on dates like this. Add...awkward to that list of feelings.

[Putnam]

I need time to recover before I go through as a genocidal maniac.

Shit, man, me too. It's the strangest thing.

Or not. It's definitely intentional.

EDIT: Oh, related: since I mentioned that I cried but didn't mention what exactly triggered it, here's the part:

Spoiler: Full game, like, seriously, if you haven't full pacifist beaten the game yet don't read (click to show/hide)

I saved my friends.

It says Asriel still needs saved.

I started tearing up slightly. Not weird for me.

His Theme starts playing, and it shows Putnam falling Asriel befriending him.

And the way the gameplay and story integrate here. Holy shit.

"I'll tear you apart!"

His attack is a lot less intense than the previous.

"Putnam... do you know why I'm doing this? Why I keep fighting to keep you around...?"

His attack is the exact one Toriel uses when you're low on health, all the way down to the bullets that dodge you.

"I'm doing this... because you're special, Putnam. You're the only one that understands me. You're the only one who's any fun to play with anymore."

At this point I was tearing up slightly more. About as emotional as I've gotten on fiction before. Bullets-dodge-you again.

"...No. That's not just it. I... I... I'm doing this because I care about you, Putnam! I care about you more than anybody else!"

Okay, so slightly more than fiction's done at this point, the tragedy of a character who cannot feel compassion anymore only being able to be anything resembling happy by messing with someone else as DETERMINED as him is pretty intense, especially since it showed how not-awful Asriel was before. Bullets-dodge-you again.

"I'm not ready for this to end."

...fuck neither am I

and that's when i started crying and everything that happened after that point just made it worse and I was unable to properly finish the game due to the emotion

[Egan_BW]

Yup, this is pretty good.

[Putnam]

also, fun fact: Flowey's laugh was used a couple months before the demo's release in Toby's song The Lordling about a minute in, a leitmotif for Caliborn/Lord English in Homestuck. Here, it's termed as *annoying laughter*.

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One can see the resemblance.

[UristMcDwarf]

game is fun, don't understand how endings work.

i understand you get different endings depending on if you don't kill anything or kill everything or do a mix of both but apparently the endings intertwine and weave and you have to play through the game like 4 times (which im not opposed to) but apparantly savescumming for the endings causes stuff to happen if you like reload your save or something and like ugh
 someone explain

[Putnam]

Definitely not 4. I've only need two to get all three endings.

First ending: didn't kill anything, rushed through the game.

Second: actually still the first ending's save, just backtracked to befriend everyone and do some stuff in a place.

Third: haven't done it yet, don't quite have the heart to I think. But I want to have a bad time so bad I love bullet hell so much.

...Wait, there is something like a fourth, isn't there? Hmm. I guess you do need three.

But not four.

[Vgray]

Doesn't true pacifist require two runs?

[quinnr]

Doesn't true pacifist require two runs?

Nope. Once you finish normal pacifist

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flowey gives you instructions to reload your save and talk to undyne, which leads to true pacifist

There are some changes depending what order you do things, as characters can kinda remember how you acted in previous lives or something like that...hard to go into without spoiling.

[Putnam]

the instructions i got were not that since i failed to do more things

you're just told EVERYTHING you need to do to get true pacifist, which depends on what you failed to do in the first place

[Vgray]

Doesn't true pacifist require two runs?

Nope. Once you finish normal pacifist

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

flowey gives you instructions to reload your save and talk to undyne, which leads to true pacifist

There are some changes depending what order you do things, as characters can kinda remember how you acted in previous lives or something like that...hard to go into without spoiling.

Oh. I somehow got the impression a reset was required.

[UristMcDwarf]

asgore is so tough
help meee

[Putnam]

fight

that's about it

his mittenhand fire attack is pretty easily dodged by going parallel to the fireline once they start moving

i honestly don't remember any of his other attacks