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[WillowLuman]

Yes. Also, they seem too intelligent/honorable for decent, light-fearing trolls.

[Halfling]

Clearly dwarves existed in some dimension or form, because shadows of them linger in hell. Besides, it's a little in-joke.

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[CASTE:DWARF_SHADOW]
[CASTE_NAME:dwarven shadow:dwarven shadows:dwarven shadow]
[BODY:HUMANOID_OUTLINE_STL]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:SHADOW_STL]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:PUNCH_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:KICK_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ROUNDHOUSE_KICK_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:SHADOW_CLAW_INFECT_STL]
[BODY_SIZE:60000]
[EQUIPS]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
Anyway... Honorable? They want to hunt and eat you and take your skull and skin. But they're not subhuman like LOTR/D&D trolls, that's true. I never thought unintelligent trolls were that neat, you can have more fearsome beasts than humanoids fill that role. These are instead chaotic beings that you can negotiate with if you're strong but who like to make you disappear if you travel in the wilderness alone, as in what I think is the nordic original (the black elves refers to Svartálfaheimr). Spiced with a little bravado, stupidity and head-hunting a la orc/ks.

[WillowLuman]

I meant about the "wind of the hunt" sort of thing. Seems a bit Native brave/sportsman-like.

Actually, it would be cool if they were a little like LOTR trolls, because those weren't unintelligent. Ever read The Hobbit? They care somewhat about what they eat (in the discerning sense, not the sympathetic sense).

[kopout]

Question, If I make a solid material that has a contact syndrome and have my Halflings make clothes from it will they get the contact syndrome when they where the clothes?

Halfling, what do you think about this? I got differing answers from different people.

[Halfling]

I meant about the "wind of the hunt" sort of thing. Seems a bit Native brave/sportsman-like.

Actually, it would be cool if they were a little like LOTR trolls, because those weren't unintelligent. Ever read The Hobbit? They care somewhat about what they eat (in the discerning sense, not the sympathetic sense).

Well, they're tribal hunters. I just took cliches and bits and pieces from everything including Native Americans obviously. There's even some Australian Aborigine references in there.

While it would also be fun to have groups of Toms, Berts, and William Hugginses out hunting adventurers,

1. I don't think this troll template is fit for them, as this was supposed to be Nordic trolls/fierce, nocturnal tribal hunters at the core, includes a society, groups and interactions with others, with clear alignment with nature and the night, alliances with other night creatures, and interest in dominating their "hunting grounds", and

2. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't write it well. Even if it would add to the game. My English skills probably wouldn't be sufficient even if I could write stupid proficiently - it's a third language to me after all. That's actually another major reason why these trolls don't speak more colloquially. (Although maybe it would also be silly on closer inspection if they had a Cockney or Appalachian accent as they're not actually from there)

Question, If I make a solid material that has a contact syndrome and have my Halflings make clothes from it will they get the contact syndrome when they where the clothes?

Halfling, what do you think about this? I got differing answers from different people.

As far as I know, solid items don't transmit contact syndromes. There should be a DFHack plug-in to add that out there.

[WillowLuman]

Appalachian might actually make some sense, being a rural mountain region

Well, it's just I've never seen trolls talking about worthy opponents, which was the "honorable" thing. I think the being discerning about food would tie into that, prefering more succulent meat like comfortable halflings to dumb and lean Dirigible Antelope.

[Halfling]

Hm. Which part is about worthy opponents? I might just fix it. By "worthy of being a snack" I meant them to say they're taunting you for not having nutritional value. By "not good for a fight" I meant "fighting you is so easy, it's not even fun", as they like fighting.

[Vgray]

I wonder what your trolls think of Formics...or any of the mostly insectoid wildlife.

[laularukyrumo]

Crunchy and good with ketchup?

[Halfling]

Well, I discovered a few things. One, you should avoid drinking lizardfolk blood. Turns out that will permanently paralyze you.



Two, the game is very meticulous about respecting the personality and ethics I gave the trolls in worldgen. The most common cause of death for them by far is murder by another troll (and then they'll very possibly make trophies of the murdered party). What's more, it's not just strangers. Look closely at the below. I was a bit surprised at first but I guess I shouldn't have been:

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[PDF urist master]

i'm sorry for asking this question but i check on this thread every once in a while and it's hard check everything in a 136 pg article.

to my understanding, treelords can spawn minions. what frequency do they have? i feel like with minion spawning, they should have similiar properties to necromancers of lore or be semi-megabeasts.

[BlackFlyme]

i'm sorry for asking this question but i check on this thread every once in a while and it's hard check everything in a 136 pg article.

to my understanding, treelords can spawn minions. what frequency do they have? i feel like with minion spawning, they should have similiar properties to necromancers of lore or be semi-megabeasts.

Last I checked there were 20 treelords, (10 female, 10 male) for every 80 elves. Their animation interaction specifically animates elves, and can only animate one at a time. The interaction is a free action; it has no wait period and doesn't take any time to do.

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:ELF_RESURRECT_BFEL]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:CAN_DO_INTERACTION:ELF_RESURRECT_BFEL]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:TARGET:A:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:100]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:FREE_ACTION]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:ADV_NAME:Resurrect an elf]
      [CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:VERB:resurrect an elf:resurrects an elf:n/a]

[INTERACTION:ELF_RESURRECT_BFEL]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:A:CORPSE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_ITEM]
      [IT_AFFECTED_CREATURE:ELF:ELF]
      [IT_REQUIRES:FIT_FOR_RESURRECTION]
   [I_EFFECT:ANIMATE]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Well, I discovered a few things. One, you should avoid drinking lizardfolk blood. Turns out that will permanently paralyze you.

 

[Vgray]

Uh...wow...my Halfling adventurer just got killed by a river squid of all things.

[StLeibowitz]

Well, I discovered a few things. One, you should avoid drinking lizardfolk blood. Turns out that will permanently paralyze you.

 

That is a wonderful hidden feature.

On a related note, we need a tarnish-stalk-esque creature - a cheap, useful animal, every body part of which causes horrible syndromes. Eating its brain causes nerve necrosis, eating its meat caues vomiting for days on end, its blood leaves blisters, and its skin secretes numbness-inducing hallucinogenic mucus, or something like that. It should lay eggs that cause blindness and be milkable for a liquid that makes joints swell up like balloons. And it should have a really innocuous name, one that doesn't make it stand out as the bane of animal husbandry.

I'd make it myself if I had time