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Abandon Ship - all hope is lost...

Our Necromagicks have failed us!

Next year...

Next quarter...

This quarter?!

Never - The GM is just playing with you!

[GreatWyrmGold]

Hm...I'm not sure we can stay hidden from these guys. We certainly can't start a fire--firebreath tends to be bright enough to attract attention, and that's the last thing we want right now.

Think about what we know about the legal status of familiars, dragons, demons, etc.

[escaped lurker]

Think about what we know about the legal status of familiars, dragons, demons, etc.

Familiars
Normally the Master of it will be held responsible - in his absence "direct" action against the familiar is really not unheard of. They are also mostly executed alongside their masters, seeing as an animal that was magically tinkered with, is mostly unable to function properly without the aid of a mage. A mercy killing, really. As some people with softer souls think otherwise, there are actually quite a few familiar animal-homes that take care of them during their often enough short and miserable life. The later practise is actually far more controversial than the former.

Demons
Except the magical guild has pressed the local authority into laws that say otherwise - wich is not as rare an occurence as one might hope to think - they are fair game. In practice you most probably get the ire of some mage or even of a whole cult, but by the laws you enjoy immunity for it. Humanoid beings with extraplanar blood do not count into this category, unless specified by law. There are actually so few of them that a seperate ruling is made for most of them, to make clear as what they will be counted. Those that do not make the "humanoid"-cut are frequently purged from this plane. There are also singular reports of them being summoned back into this plane, this time obviously fully demon, so it might not be as bad as it sounds. Or those reports are rumours geared at this reaction, who are we to know.

Dragons
There is exactly one precedence of a juvenile "rogue" dragon being killed. Well, after it burned down over 3 kingdoms - often enough with hit and run tactics - not even the dragons seemed to care about it. The beastmen did make a point to send a few elite troops to support the effort, having it deemed unfit to bear the honour of being a dragon. There is a persistent rumour among scholars that they also boar the message "You really had it coming" from Zh'vhkur, but it is a rumour at most.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Spoiler: Onomatopoeia (click to show/hide)

Let's preface this with the following: This all became academic the moment the GM put up another update. New developments might be what's important to our character in the present, but they have no impact on the veracity of the arguments stated previously. Thus, new lines of contention that make use of them are invalid. I started this discussion to debate those arguments, and have continued to do so for that purpose. Feel free to concede if you want to move on .

-snip-

I just quoted the GM for you. Here it is again:

I did give a bonus to the roll on their decision, but running after a thief while in full armour, might not be the most productive thing to do. To be honest, "Murder", or "Fire" would have gotten a slightly bigger one.[/size]

"...might not be the most productive thing to do."
Most productive.
That implies that they would have chased after the thief if they didn't have anything more important to do. Evidently, they did...

Most productive in a sarcastic understatement. As in running back would have been absolutely futile. Meanwhile they've got a funny-shaped dog that's covered in a lot more mud than usual, and that seems suspicious.

We haven't seen anything indicating a rippling wave of folk-tale-induced unrest. All signs from the GM have been that our camo was a perfect success.

What do you expect and need? Remember, all it takes is rumors.

The GM making some kind of hint that our cover was blown.

I'm not exactly worried about our cred- the pigeon's flown the coop, we've already made a deal with him, and like hell we can get 30 gold in 3 days. Are we reverting to the 'don't show up to make the payment, steal it from his fence'?

That's not my plan. Again, if we need to, do so; if we don't, don't. Let's not assume we won't be able to when there's still a chance we can.

Even if we did, and did so in a way the thief wouldn't hear of it, I'd question giving him 30 gold.

As I said, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
If that doesn't answer your question, consider this philosophical question: If it's easy, is it worth doing?
My point is, just because it's hard or time-consuming doesn't automatically mean we shouldn't do it.

And as another said, in the meantime they might kill us on-sight.

They might...which is part of why I keep pushing to gather information.
But if we're not a complete moron, we could simply not go into a situation with no escape. If we did so, we'd at least learn something about our enemies.

We're taking MMP damage every day or so-- or worse. We don't have tons of time.

We can't exactly just rush in. No plan will work if we try to do it without knowing about our enemies. Worse, we won't know what plan to try.
Knowledge is power. Power is good.

We know enough about our enemies for it to work. Knowledge is power yes, but so is time.

You have a choice if you're dealing with demons.
You don't have a choice if you're a demon.
Dealing with a race known to typically delight in pain? Evil.
Being a member of a race known to typically delight in pain? Suspicious, but not evil in and of itself. Especially if you're only part-demon, and not willingly so. (Did we choose to be part-demon?)

I still fail to see how 'being affiliated with an evil(ish?) group' is worse than 'being part of an evil(ish) group'. As in 'murder the former, befriend the latter!'---- wouldn't that make our proposed party members demon-associators?

The biggest difference is that we'd have proven to be the exception.

Did the adventurers wait to make that distinction before murdering our boss?

We. Don't. Know.
That's the problem. We don't know much of anything.

True, but the fact that they slew him & looted his tower isn't a good sign.

Yes, because a sorceress adventurer who is exhausted and therefore mostly vulnerable, who probably has accumulated a number of enemies through her adventuring, can be relied on to leave herself perfectly defenseless in her room while an emergency is going on. I could see her going with her friends, or having one stay behind, but I don't think we can count on her leaving herself undefended.

It's the keep of a city-not exactly undefended; or at least that's what we want them to think. Being well-established & powerful would actually help isolate her, 'No, fuck you, I can take care of myself, go on.'.

Ah. So you think that our little dragon can defeat the defenses of a keep? And that the sorceress wouldn't be concerned about threats that could do so? It seems to me that most things that can burn a city wouldn't have much trouble with a castle--and the fact that we're one but not the other doesn't help your side any.

Implying burning a city requires the same skillset as storming a castle. I've already gone over how to start the fires & why we could get inside. The argument was that she'd feel safe inside the castle, which wouldn't be safe if the plan went through, and that being headstrong would also goad her into banishing protection if she's smart enough not to go out when she's exhausted.

1. Most things capable of burning cities are powerful. Most things which are powerful are things adventurers would be concerned with.
2. Remind me, how do you expect to break into the keep, a building which is made to keep people out, when we are just a small, weak dragon? Do we hope that the guards all run out to fight the fire, and that the sorceress decides to let her companions go and help while she stays in her room, defenseless, and does not? Then we must hope that she hasn't heard rumors of the dragonlike creature and put two and two together; that her group does not stick together as a rule; that they care enough about the city to send two of their group but not all three; and that the sorceress has no protection except other people. That's a lot of assumptions we can't make at this time.
Which is why we need more information.

How powerful is a lightning bolt when compared to a castle? How about a lamp that falls over in the night? It doesn't take much to start fires, and only coordination is required to start many, quickly.
Yep, yep, nope, yep, yep, yep. Oh we can make them, it just makes for excitement! Gathering information takes time, which is something we don't have a ton of.

As of before the second attempt to talk to the thief, could you link those people that saw us? Two children and one drunkard makes 3.

You left out the thugs, the thief, and now the two guards.

Invalid.

And no, not clearly magical, clearly mud-caked. Never once has the gm referred to us any more specifically than 'mud covered thing'. He hasn't specified our wings either. What he has said is that we almost appear to be a dirty stray dog. Which he has said are plentiful.
Whose claims?

We can see wings in the pictures he's drawn recently. If we can see them from above, why would other people--much closer and at a better angle--be unable to see them? And, for that matter, where would they go?
And we have, in fact, used magic...including, in one confirmed case, a time when it was obvious that we were using magic, and with a suspicious excuse (What kind of wizard disguises himself as a mud-covered winged thing to a few people?) that attracts more talk...

I suspect he does that for our convenience. Meanwhile, it's his descriptions, his words, that are the rule of the universe, and he hasn't said a thing to indicate our cover was blown.
Close to our body, under a layer of mud.
Invalid, but to debate anyway: those thugs only saw us last night, not enough time for word to spread throughout the city.

Actually, I'd say a dead dragon is a lot less likely to kill a would-be researcher than a live one.

As implied, we would try to kill the researcher or escape before he would do that. The researcher is a researcher, not a dragonslayer, so any killing would be left to the adventurers.
And they're not likely to delay.

And why would he keep us in a position where we could attack him?

How would he keep us from being in such a position?

Manacles & a muzzle, a cage, magic. If he's a 'competent' researcher, he's not going to let himself get torn to shreds by his subject matter.

Have you gotten the idea that I want to avoid causing civilian casualties? It strikes me that that will make things harder, both because we'd destroy much of the town and because we look vaguely draconic, leading to suspicions that the weird dragon-like mud monster might have been connected to the fire that destroyed the town...especially if a draconic creature shows up to try and get the amulet from the sorceress.

If it works we'd be out of the town that night.

Because adventurers never leave town to pursue people who killed large numbers of people and stole stuff from them. And because town governments don't care about such beings either.

We're in the wilderness man, we've left the building, the only thing we have on us is our amulet and they have bigger fish to fry, (dealing with the injured & rebuilding).
First they'd need to be able to track us, then it comes down to their disposition, (and we won't have killed any of the adventuring party).

Well, let me put it this way: An alliance is more likely to work than a confrontation, because a confrontation against a superior number of superior combatants will not end well. We have deception and friendship, and our deception ideas are lacking.

It wouldn't be an alliance though!

You keep saying this, but A. I've been showing that it could be if we tried, and B. you don't know enough about the adventurers to make the claims you have been.
We don't know anything. That's the problem. We need to learn more.

& I've been showing that it's not an alliance! They don't involve cages & killswitches!
There's more evidence to support my claims than yours!

...How did that answer the question? We'd know and our burning guilt would force us to confess in a Raskolnikovian madness?
Here's a better question: If you don't mind burning a town, causing countless property damage and civilian casualties, why do you care about lies?

I didn't answer your question because your question was beside the point.
Pride.

Why was it beside the point?
What pride? The pride of an arsonist and mass-murderer who tells the truth? What kind of messed-up logic is that?

It was beside the point because making sure they don't find out has nothing to do with our roleplaying identity.
Draconic logic.

1. I don't understand your first point.
2. We were discussing why I held my views, not what the adventurers and their patrons thought.
Thus, it seems you're not being terribly germane...

The GM didn't say much on demons until after our discussion started.
You brought your thinking into this as an analogue for what the characters would do- their opinions about demons and those that deal with them. I've been pressing you on this because I assert it don't make no sense- so when you presented the argument of 'if there's a zealot guy, the other two party members won't be because of patterns in fictional prose', instead of just pointing out this doesn't apply to all universes, I pointed out the hypocrisy of assuming the composition of an adventuring party based on the same sources (meta-knowledge at that) that would also suggest all demons are evil, corrupt beings, thus linking back to that argument. If anything, rerouting back onto how the characters think is a step towards the germane.

1. So?
2. I brought my thinking as an example of what they might do--again, this depends on information we lack. We need to find out rather than assuming. You know what happens when you assume, right?

So it's an invalid argument.
Hilarity. And we're both guilty, but mine're better!

Those are arguments I can deal with! Well they do have a big church nearby, and the master did start crap with them, (and tax collectors). Plus the populace might not be very friendly towards demons in general, and therefore slaying the demon-magician would be sweet! Along with his demon familiar! Isn't there a demon siege currently going on somewhere?

These things explain why a demon-slayer would be supported...but not why the local lords would give lodging. After all, there aren't that many demons around.

See: tax collectors.

Counterargument:
See: Demons.
You need to explain things, not just say them. Are you saying the demon-slayers would pay taxes? If you're referring to the wizard's unpaid back taxes, that justifies paying them for a raid but not continuing to protect them afterwards, unless the adventurers are like the lord's violent auditors or something.

Not only are they demon-slayers, they're tax collectors- They're the heroes of both the local populace & the local lord, and he's invited them to stay in his keep as a matter of face. Politics.

1. We'd still be a member. If we earn our (figurative) bread, we get to eat. If we prove that we're valuable to the group, we become part of the group. Certainly, stranger teams have happened IRL and in popular fantasy.
2. If it becomes a problem, take it and leave. It'll certainly be easier to steal once we're in the middle of the wilderness, sleeping in a tent, than now in the middle of a major town and within a well-guarded keep.

This assuming the best possible scenario for their reception of us. With the exception of giving us our amulet. In such a case, they wouldn't leave it out where we could get it. Or more likely, they won't give us free movement after hours. And if they put us in a cage, why would they ever let us out at all? We're the size of a cat, intelligent, can barely glide and semi-skilled in illusions. Not exactly battle material, but still quite able to steal things if they let their guard down.
Ooh, and we're vulnerable to theft, (high profile).

It's not the "best possible case," it's "not the worst possible case". Besides, you know what the adventurers should know happens when they lock something up? The locked-up thing becomes resentful. The adventurers should know that locking something up in fear that it will become a threat is a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially when that "something" is a small dragon...

It's a pretty good case.
They should know? Oh yes, and if they don't lock it up, it's gone the first night with the amulet and half all their gold. I imagine they'd learn that foolish lesson on the first try.

I disagree, I have been continually addressing the issues. Dash in during the confusion, or attempt to climb the sloped wall (during the confusion).

Say this works, say no one notices and cares about the weird little mud-covered thing or accidentally blocks us, say we get in.
What then? We don't even know where the sorceress's room is, or if that's where the amulet is being stored. If I was the sorceress, I sure wouldn't just leave the amulet lying around. A locked chest at minimum, perhaps request a spot in some vault.

She'll have it nearby- she's not sold it, and experimenting on it. You don't put something you're fascinated with & manipulating frequently in a vault unless you actively suspect treachery.
Sounds like fun hijiinks for us to work through with our limitless mana. Like I mentioned previously, (but you didn't understand), if we start a conflagration, the emotions sweeping the city will feed us quite nicely- we were the cause of them after all.

We've managed to make people aware of us, as shown by those people chasing a muddy thing. If they thought we were just a stray cat or something, a thief attacking a woman would take greater priority. If they know we're more than that...it would explain their actions.
Besides, you're assuming that they don't know what the amulet is. There's no evidence for that. Presumably, an adventuring party has some way to figure out what magical items are...the sorceress wouldn't have experimented with the amulet with no idea what it did, after all.

I don't think they do, nor are, as I said above. The thief did, but he has a business associated with rumors & sensitive information.

You forgot the thugs.
And now the guards know for sure we're some kind of little monster guy. That's ruining our cover right there.

Again, we started this conversation quite a time ago. New information isn't relevant to our previous positions.
Oh yes, and the thugs and the guards rub shoulders all the time. Swap stories and everything.

Since when were we only discussing previous positions? That's foolish and futile. Maybe we should only discuss what we do now with information from the OP!
And while thugs and guards don't swap stories with each other, they do swap stories with other people. These other people also share news they've heard. This leads to information spreading.

Since I disagreed with what you said and endeavored to show you why. Maybe we would if you made statements involving it that 1. I thought were incorrect and 2. I thought you were serious about.
Yes, but not as fast as you anticipate. Give it another day, and it'll be spread all over, but last night-> midday isn't enough time for it to percolate to all corners of the society.

Oh, yes. "I have determined that this is an amulet which grants power to and over a familiar! I now control the familiar AHAHAHA!"
That's like saying that being able to recognize a SCUBA tank means you're PADI certified.

Assuming the amulet's hard to use. Either that, or they haven't fully identified it. Both are supposition. But you're the one that's trying to claim it as a reason we don't have surprise.

That is because it is stupid to assume we have surprise when there is no reason to do so. Even ignoring the evidence of people having seen us, when you have "High Profile" and have been stirring up muck in a city for a couple of days, the element of surprise should be a nice unintended bonus, not a core element of the plan.

The entirety of the reason to assume we had the element of surprise is because THE GM HAD NEVER ONCE MENTIONED OUR COVER WAS BLOWN. This is a forum game, even if common sense would dictate it, if the GM says otherwise, WHAT THE GM SAYS, GOES. What we don't have reason to do is assume our cover is blown.

You mean that trying to steal it won't alert them?
"But we'll succeed!"
No, not likely. Remember: We need to break into a keep, and fight at least one adventurer. As a cat-sized dragon with minimal combat abilities.
And then we'll have three angry adventurers on our tails.
And what stops us from stealing the amulet once we're in the party, if we really must? "It'll be harder?" It's pretty darn impossible now, and in the future the security will be composed of tents and one guy at a time watching for wolves or bandits.

As the gm stated, we can likely handle a single person, (I'm assuming so long as we have our dragon fire). Plus illusions. If the city's turned into a medieval version of Dresden, we'll be able to cast our little illusions with impunity. With the element of surprise, (they don't know we're coming for the amulet), and our boosted magical abilities, I disagree with your evaluation of our chances.
Why would they drop whatever they were doing and chase us? Once we're outside the keep, we're practically home-free. No point of trying to track us down then.
Tents, a guy on watch (maybe), and a cage.

1. We can likely handle a single person...assuming that that person is not unusual in some relevant way, or accompanied by another single person.
2. Mind if I ask for your logic here?
3. For reasons mentioned, we can't assume that we have the element of surprise.
4. What boosted magical abilities?
5. Why? Because we stole something valuable from them, are connected with a person who they obviously disliked, gave them no reason not to, and burned half the town.

You discount the mana font- given an exhausted sorceress, we could probably win. Given all three are still holed up in their room, we could probably win with unlimited mana.
We cause a conflagration, (dresden was the city in germany that was rather infamously firebombed), everyone shits their pants in fear & anxiety, we feed on their pants-shitting fear & anxiety. (We gain mana)
Limitless mana.
They stole it first, (easy come easy go), and like I said first they need to be able to track us, then they'd need to actually want to- after being certain we'd started the fire for that matter. We'd have at least a day on them, if they knew that very night, they'd have to pack up, find a tracker and start trying to find our trail.

Why are you still arguing for your previous stances?

Because that's what we've been doing. If what you said was wrong, I'm going to write you a speeding ticket. Even if it takes a dozen replies, I will try do so as long as you persist in thinking you're right or haven't convinced me otherwise.

...I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that you are arguing just to prove me wrong rather than to actually try and figure out what the best course of action for our character is?

The moment the GM posted the next update, that's what it became, yep.

No mention of wings or 'draconic' traits. Only a muddy thing that resembles a dog.

A claim that is not upheld by common sense or the artwork. And, remember, that disguise was made days ago. I'd be surprised if it is still in prime condition. Heck, I'm surprised bits haven't been falling off.

GM's word > common sense, artwork, divine intervention.
Since the GM hadn't mentioned it wasn't falling apart, it could be assumed we were maintaining it. Something that was proven correct shortly after your post.

Why?
And what makes you certain we can do that? Aside from terrorizing chickens, which frankly sounds a lot less interesting to me than joining an adventuring group's adventures.

To get more power, remaining safe while doing so. Terrorizing chickens is better than sitting in a cage.

I disagree. Well, not with the statement, but with what you're actually trying to say
Terrorizing chickens is dull, repetitive, and the only excitement will be when the farmers hire mercenaries to drive out the dragon...probably successfully. Adventuring with the adventurers gives us such things as a chance to be on adventures, no one trying to kill us, and a chance to become an actual member of the team...depending on how the adventurers are. If we investigate and discover that they're the type to stick us in a cage or kill us, with no chances, I'll gladly drop my idea of allying them, but we don't know. Which is the devil in the details of all these debates.

You seem to underestimate the shenanigans we could get into, and undervalue 1. Our freedom & 2. Our safety.
Adventures in killing other people like the master! & Being vivisected! & Laying about in a cage! Except the adventurers enemies, who would kill and/or steal us.

Not killing her would attract less anger, not good. And I can't think of any non-lethal (or non-seeming-attempted-lethal, I should say) method of getting the amulet from the sorceress in your plan.
What disadvantages are you thinking of? We need more information regardless.

Illusions? Why would she fight to the death to protect her our amulet anyway?
Mainly the experimentations, plus lounging about longer = greater chance of being discovered/caught.

1. So...we scare her away, and hope she abandons the amulet and doesn't have any way of recognizing illusions when we can detect magic within a keep from outside it? And, for that matter, hope she has the amulet? Could you explain this plan a bit more?
2. If we spend a whole day gathering information, it will be worth just about anything the sorceress can do to us...because we'll have information. Knowing may not be half the battle, but ignorance is the end of it...and not in our favor.

What could she do even if she did recognize them? She's burned out of mana.
Like ripping our soul from our body or taking control of us? She could do that if we're unlucky.

Think of all the things I said could go wrong. Could the sorceress not be alone? Could she not be as defenseless as you assume? Could the amulet not be in her room? Could she know that it's a Familiar Amulet, or have heard rumors of the muddy thing? Could the adventurers not give a tarnished copper piece about the well-being of the town? Could the adventurers be sufficiently vindictive and/or justice-seeking to pursue the creature that stole something valuable from them and burnt half a city? The questions go on and on, and until we get answers pretty much any plan is a gamble.
That's why we need to gather information.

Those all just sound like the facets of an interesting & bold plan coming together and springing the plot forward!
Getting info is a plan as well, and just as much a gamble.

+1 to getting out of there.
Next time we slay a cat, let's see if we can wear it's skin like a trenchcoat.

[GreatWyrmGold]

If you're going to argue about that, while I argue about what we should do now with what we know now, our arguments can never cease because we're arguing over different things. Really, is there a point?

And I don't think we can wear a cat's skin like a trenchcoat. Several problems:
1. There are many, many ways to skin a cat, but very few (if any) are available to someone without thumbs.
2. A lot of the cat isn't skin, like the teeth, claws, and eyes.
3. We have no zippers, so the place we cut for us to enter would hang open.
4. We may be about cat-sized, but we're certainly not cat-shaped.
Our best bet for a better cat disguise would be better illusions. Shame we didn't add a point to Magic, maybe we would have gotten one...

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

If you're going to argue about that, while I argue about what we should do now with what we know now, our arguments can never cease because we're arguing over different things. Really, is there a point?

VICTORY!

And I don't think we can wear a cat's skin like a trenchcoat. Several problems:
1. There are many, many ways to skin a cat, but very few (if any) are available to someone without thumbs.
2. A lot of the cat isn't skin, like the teeth, claws, and eyes.
3. We have no zippers, so the place we cut for us to enter would hang open.
4. We may be about cat-sized, but we're certainly not cat-shaped.
Our best bet for a better cat disguise would be better illusions. Shame we didn't add a point to Magic, maybe we would have gotten one...

IT'S SIMPLE: MAKE A HOLE, CRAWL IN!

[GreatWyrmGold]

It's not a victory, it's me pointing out we're aiming at different targets. Possibly in different rooms.

[escaped lurker]

Spoiler: Plot, Perspective and Reasoning - Or - Why I dont hand out the meta - Or - My turn to give out a wall of text ;3 (click to show/hide)

First of all, let me tell you that you view the story from the sight of our protagonist. There are many workings behind him, that I obviously won't spoil for immersion. To specify it, the guards reasons for following us could be plenty. The most simple ones would be that the middleman told them, that some people that we did not see did instead see us and that they already had a few reports of us, or even more sinister – the sorceress cast some spell of divination onto the amulet – pretty much the best medium she could ever get on us – and told the guard to catch us.

The roll that made them not follow the scream was explained by their armour, but that was the reasoning that our protagonist thought of. Wich is quite reasonable. We even got lucky on that whole mess because the gentler of the two got us – instead of the one who would plant our body onto the next wall just to stop us.

Let's also make it clear that I do know since pretty much the beginning, what fate would await us if the heroes became aware of our presence, and how much – if any – information they hold. The former rolled out nicely over a D20, ranging with different reasons from killing to imprisonment, research, some special options and even lastly some positive notions. Obviously I try to leave out all hints into that regard out of my writing, as it would limit our choices into a direction I do certainly not desire. If you look at "Urban Vigilante Cyborg" you can see an extreme example of what I mean. Certainly refreshing, and nice in its own right - but not the direction that I want to go with this plot. Else I would have shared a flashback into our gold-filled lair, telling the tale of our survival and escape from the tower to a welp. Or something.

While I do enforce some rules and rulings via worldshaping and the basic plot, this is very much needed – the reactions that are derived upon and the possibilities are not steming from my quill but from mainly your suggestions and the dice, whereupon I write the happenings. There are assorted boni that I sometimes assign before rolling, depending on abilities and the scenario. As example, when sneaking in a known area, and or at night we obviously get a nice boni on it. Or the middleman, as he obviously ought to be pissed to see the illusion again, I gave a bonus to that occuring, as I deemed it quite reasonable. I mean, he did state his demands previously, and now we do the same thing yet again? He might obviously laugh it off, but the chances for him not doing so are acutally quite high. In the end, instead of grimacing, it meant that he was somewhat mad instead.

I also do know that my art-style is far from being "art" at all, but as noted by some I did paint wings, and things that get pictured are supposed to be there. We can't hide our wings completely just by throwing a bit of mud, pebbles and vegetation on it. I will take note to make sure that such things do not get relayed as ambigous as they were in this case.

IT'S SIMPLE: MAKE A HOLE, CRAWL IN!

With this crowd? Only a matter of time now... 



Nigh time to get out of here, and getting out of view quickly might also be advisable. As soon as you exit your place of hiding thou, there are some obvious stares into your direction -  with the people soon murmuring and pointing to your direction. You wonder if that means that not only the magicians and guards are after your tail, but quite possibly the townspeople as well. Since they do not make any attempts at your freedom you disregard the thought. They do call for the guards thou, and with no other choice you dash off in a hury.

You try to climb over some piled up junk and onto a nearby roof, but after two tries it turns out to be impossible for you. The shrill whistles of the guards break into a chorus, unmistakebly giving away your location and calling others. With no viable option for climbing any of the roofs around you have no other choice but to run further. You also see the first team of guards blocking one route of escape behind you, the people building a curious and willing wall behind them. They seem to regard the whole thing with some slight excitement, but wile there is a lot of stirring, the emotions behind all that do not to seem very strong. +1 MP

Deciding on the direction with the least whistling, you make a run for it. Running through an alley, you spot to no surprise that the previous guards are following you – as they do not close in you can only guess that they are waiting for magical support. Honing your mind for a small moment, you reassuredly take notice that the trio of mages is still quite a ways off. They do close in on your previous hideout thou, your fear about them having found some trail proven to be correct.

When you arrive at the next fork, you see that a number of guardsmen have gathered in each of them. Relief washes over you as soon as your gaze falls upon a stack of wood – neatly lined up next to a porch and giving you an easy access towards the roof. Sadly it seems that the soldiers won't have that much of a problem in following you up on the roof, but it sure seems better than being surrounded on the streets. Now that they found you, the guards seem way less tense. Even when you escape onto the roof there is not much of a stirring to be felt.

With somehow having made it out of immediate danger, you make a quick decision on your next plan of action.

Now, that went.. well. I guess. Hey, at least they did not catch or murder us yet. Thats the job of the mages. 

[Harbingerjm]

Really wishing we had just introduced that guy who picked us up to a faceful of claw, much less blatant. Oh well.

Ok, time to get out of here. Scarper over the rooftops, attempt to use mental map of town to find an area of roofs where it would require a lot of manpower to cut off all escape routes, preferably where we can get a bit of cover. If there are chimneys in the area, all the better. Play Yakety Sax in our head.

Towers tend to have roofs. Unless you suggest we fly in a window...which would put us in the tower. However, once we get in the tower...what then?

What? I don't even...

Especially if we start off from somewhere high up, like, say, that tower.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

We couldn't have clawed him, he was wearing armor, and was holding our limbs. A double-illusion would have been better.
-1 to chimneys. We want to use our gliding as much as possible to get major distance on the guardsmen. Use mental map to try losing them by gliding over large gaps?
Try to get out of the city.

[Harbingerjm]

We couldn't have clawed him, he was wearing armor, and was holding our limbs. A double-illusion would have been better.

He was holding us right in front of his face, and we have four limbs vs his two hands, so I very much doubt he was holding all of them.

[Scionox]

+1 to gliding
Maybe drop a sound illusion somewhere to distract them if needed, or if at some moment there is only one guard, illusion of going into completely different direction, assuming he will call the rest to follow that we went into that direction, except we didn't.

[10ebbor10]

Introduce fire to wood. That will delay the guards for quite some time. Maybe forever, depening on how well it goes.

[Aseaheru]

Glide away

[GreatWyrmGold]

Really wishing we had just introduced that guy who picked us up to a faceful of claw, much less blatant. Oh well.

Ok, time to get out of here. Scarper over the rooftops, attempt to use mental map of town to find an area of roofs where it would require a lot of manpower to cut off all escape routes, preferably where we can get a bit of cover. If there are chimneys in the area, all the better. Play Yakety Sax in our head.

Towers tend to have roofs. Unless you suggest we fly in a window...which would put us in the tower. However, once we get in the tower...what then?

What? I don't even...

Especially if we start off from somewhere high up, like, say, that tower.

1. We're a dragon, not a spider.
2. Really, the biggest problem isn't the "How do we get inside," it's the "We're inside! What now?"

I +1 gliding away.

[Harbingerjm]

1. We're a dragon, not a spider.

We're already on the roof, and they should be mostly the same height, so I wouldn't think it would be too hard.

2. Really, the biggest problem isn't the "How do we get inside," it's the "We're inside! What now?"

Are you actually reading what I'm typing?
DRAGON START IN TOWER.
DRAGON JUMP OFF TOWER.
DRAGON GLIDE TO CASTLE.
THERMALS HELP.
DRAGON HAPPY.