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[Dutchling]

o.O

[Max White]

I saw that edit. 

[LordSlowpoke]

the public perception of domestic abuse in every country i can list off the top of my head is man on woman only, same with some other crimes which i will refrain from mentioning with a 1524 centimeter graph paper tube

as shameful as a display it is, when you point it out you are ridiculed because women's issues are more widespread and hereby need more effort to be fought for,  what are you some misogynist men's rights activist go back to stormfront uhh... i have no idea what would be the equivalent here. sorry. not denying the part where they are more widespread because that's true but goddamn it doesn't mean a you can completely ignore the other side of the coin to the point of saying "hey, here's a domestic abuse line for men, call if you think you're being abusive brah we can help you" that line is going to get as much use as suborbital transpacific commercial aircraft does

wait a second hasn't this been discussed over the course of the entire thread? i may need to reread it.

[Max White]

Well yea, one does get tired of the recurring theme of 'Cry me a river! Patriarchy means women are never privileged! MRAs are sexist bigots!' in the public, but this is a government agency. Cultural unacceptable of the severity of an issue is one thing, but institutional dismissal like this is a new ball game.

[penguinofhonor]

I could have sworn this thread got locked. Hm. Wait, no, that was the atheism one.

[Vector]

Cultural unacceptable of the severity of an issue is one thing, but institutional dismissal like this is a new ball game.

Maybe for you.

[kingfisher1112]

Don't get me started on the inequality in the representations of crimes like rape or domestic abuse favouring women... Oh wait that's right I'm meant to be staying out of this thread.

[Max White]

Maybe for you.

Oh I didn't realize that your government provides services to one gender and not another. I'm very sorry to hear that. Why don't you educate me on this topic so that next time somebody claims sexism is only a cultural thing and not legislative I can better spread awareness.

[Vector]

I'm saying that you seem to be pretty new to institutional sexism.  It's not a fucking new ballgame, you silly person, this is thousands-of-years-old hat.

[Max White]

One that is apparently still discriminating against men. Oh male privilege, I can't wait to see the day.

[Bauglir]

And also against women, is I think the point. It seems you've suddenly shifted viewpoints from it being new to it being ancient, too. Show some consistency, dude.

The website is awful, and I don't think Vector is disputing that*

Cultural unacceptable of the severity of an issue is one thing, but institutional dismissal like this is a new ball game.

But you see that quote up there? It reads to me like you claiming that men haven't been subject to that sort of thing for ages. Like it's new in some way, like an unfamiliar sport of some kind (possibly involving spherical objects?). Like part of the problem is that the status quo has gotten worse. Only we know the status quo has been this stupid for women for a long time, so...

Again, it's not that various kinds of discrimination against men haven't been SOP for stretches of history, but more that comment trivializing a lot of people's suffering.

Well, at least, that's why I'm annoyed with it at this point. Can't really speak for Vector, I s'pose.

*Correct me if I'm wrong

[Max White]

That website is a reflection of the institutions that determine where funding goes for a wide, wide array of topics. It isn't some extremest blog, it isn't a forum where bigots gather, it isn't even the views held by some people. It isn't a just website, it is the law of the land.

I know this isn't new, but I'm annoyed it still exists, and I am annoyed that page has been up since 22 December 2010 without anybody bothering to do something about it. Find me any other source of a government making such abused gender gaps and I will be equally offended. Yes I am pissed off about laws that prevent women from driving in middle eastern countries, but at least somebody on earth is trying to fight against that. Nobody really seems to give a fuck on these issues.

I got that page from a friends status update on facebook, and he was inundated with people pretty much telling him that neither men nor women need other resources.

[Vector]

No, that was what I was driving at.

My god, I'm glad you're outraged, but I wish you had some for us when things are totally unbalanced against us as well.  Even in Western countries.

I know this isn't new, but I'm annoyed it still exists, and I am annoyed that page has been up since 22 December 2010 without anybody bothering to do something about it. Find me any other source of a government making such abused gender gaps and I will be equally offended. Yes I am pissed off about laws that prevent women from driving in middle eastern countries, but at least somebody on earth is trying to fight against that. Nobody really seems to give a fuck on these issues.

I am really impressed by your naivete.

[Max White]

Well you can sit there on your high seat with your pretty princess crown and call me naive, or you can educate me.
Go on, tell me about it. What to direct my disapproval at. Tell me how it is going to be.

[Vector]

Well you can sit there on your high seat with your pretty princess crown and call me naive, or you can educate me.

No.