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[QuakeIV]

Space marines?  Fuck that shit.

We should prioritize getting the hell out of dodge to somewhere safer to develop ourselves.

[Xantalos]

AUTO RAILGUNS?
POWERED ARMOR?
PLASMA WEAPONRY?!
FUCK THIS SHIZZLE WE ARE GETTING THE FUNK OUT OF DODGE

[javierpwn]

Keep in mind that even our drones can chew through the power armor(probably). And remember , our soldiers are described as their medium infantry equivalent. They will tear apart everything limb from limb, or use their dangerous alien technology to kill off everything better than those fleshy humans in their suits.

And soldiers are described to be able to rampage through cities

[Xantalos]

THEY HAVE
FULL.
AUTO.
RAILGUNS.

[javierpwn]

WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE BETTER FULL AUTORAILGUNS
WE HAVE PURPOSE TO DESTROY;PURPOSE FULFILLED BY HEAVILY ADAPTED PREDATORS!

[Xantalos]

Railgun. They have full auto versions of these.
Of course I know we're superior in every way, [/arrogance], but if they bring heavy weapons to bear I'll be frightened.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

First: Diplomacy isn't our style
Second: Marines aren't that dangerous
Third: They yet to find us
Fourth: Even as a body we are ahead techwise... Surely the fact that they got our tech sucks but hopefully they can't salvage much from the ship
Fifth: We just need to wait until our eggs develop, predator or two will make bipeds suffer. Body Predators kick asses

[javierpwn]

WE HAVE PREDATORS,WHO DESTROY ENTIRE STARSHIPS!
We need a heavily modified

[Ross Vernal]

A quick summary of the relative power of human weapons versus Kai weapons. If it is listed, then we have a plan for it in the database.

Spoiler: Kai Weapon Schematics (click to show/hide)

Pure Fusion Multirocket Launcher
Damage: Ludicrous
Penetration: Extremely High
Range: Extremely High
Accuracy: Explosive
Rate of Fire: Moderately Slow
Missile Speed: Supersonic
Ammunition Capacity: 8 Fusion Rockets

Multirocket Launcher
Damage: Extremely High
Penetration: Extremely High
Range: Extremely High
Accuracy: Explosive
Rate of Fire: Depends
Ammunition Capacity: 16 Heavy Rockets

Thermobaric Mine
Damage: Very High
Penetration: Extremely Low
Range: A few meters
Accuracy: n/a
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammunition Capacity: n/a

Shrapnel Mine
Damage: Very High
Penetration: Moderate
Range: A few meters
Accuracy: n/a
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammunition Capacity: n/a

High-Energy Autocannon
Damage: Very High
Penetration: Extremely High
Range: High
Accuracy: Moderate
Rate of Fire: Extremely High
Ammunition Capacity: Extremely High

Shaped Mine
Damage: High
Penetration: Extremely High
Range: A few meters
Accuracy: n/a
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammunition Capacity: n/a

Heavy Energy Machine Gun
Damage: High
Penetration: Moderate
Effective Range: Moderate
Accuracy: Low
Rate of Fire: Very High
Ammunition Capacity: High
Pumped Tribarrel
Damage: High
Penetration: Very High
Effective Range: High
Accuracy: Moderate
Rate of Fire: Moderately Low
Ammunition Capacity: Moderate

Light Energy Machine Gun
Damage: Moderate
Penetration: Moderate
Effective Range: Moderate
Accuracy: Low
Rate of Fire: Very High
Ammunition Capacity: High

Pumped Pulse Blaster
Damage: Moderate
Penetration: Very High
Range: Moderately Low
Accuracy: Moderate
Rate of Fire: Moderate
Ammunition Capacity: Moderate

Pulse Blasters
Damage: Moderate
Penetration: Low
Range: Moderately Low
Accuracy: Moderate
Rate of Fire: Moderately Low
Ammunition Capacity: Moderate

Laser Cutters
Damage: Low
Penetration: Very High
Range: Melee
Accuracy: Depends
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammunition Capacity: Infinite

Spoiler: Human Weaponry (click to show/hide)

Rods From God:
Damage: Ludicrous
Penetration: Ludicrous
Range: Planetary
Accuracy: Irrelevant
Rate of Fire: Moderate
Ammo Capacity: 12 Rods

Rocket Launcher
Damage: Very High
Penetration: Very High
Range: Extremely High
Accuracy: Self-Guided
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammunition Capacity: 1 Heavy Rocket

Heavy Railgun
Damage: High
Penetration: Very High
Range: High
Accuracy: Moderate/High
Rate of Fire: Moderate
Ammunition Capacity: 20 Heavy Rods

AP Assault Projectile Weaponry
Damage: High
Penetration: High
Range: Moderate
Accuracy: High
Rate of Fire: Moderate
Ammunition Capacity: 30 AP Rods

Mid-Caliber Assault Projectile Weaponry
Damage: Moderate
Penetration: Moderate
Range: Moderate
Accuracy: High
Rate of Fire: Moderately High
Ammunition Capacity: 60 Ferrofluid Shots

Standard Assault Projectile Weaponry
Damage: Low-Moderate
Penetration: High
Range: Low
Accuracy: High
Rate of Fire: Very High
Ammunition Capacity: 60 Caseless Bullets

Recoil-less Low-Caliber Handheld Projectile Weaponry
Damage: Low
Penetration: Low
Range: Low
Accuracy: Very High
Rate of Fire: Low
Ammunition Capacity: 30 Caseless Bullets

Directed-Energy Blaster:
Damage: Low
Penetration: Low
Range: Line-of-sight
Accuracy: Low
Ammo Capacity: 20 Supercapacitators

Plasma Torch
Damage: Exteremely High
Penetration: Extremely High
Range: Extremely Low
Accuracy: Extremely Low
Rate of Fire: Low
Ammo Capacity: 20 Magchambers

Tempered Monoblades
Damage: Low
Penetration: Moderate
Range: Melee
Accuracy: Varies
Rate of Fire: n/a
Ammo: n/a

Keep in mind that even our drones can chew through the power armor(probably). And remember , our soldiers are described as their medium infantry equivalent. They will tear apart everything limb from limb, or use their dangerous alien technology to kill off everything better than those fleshy humans in their suits.

"A Drone could eventually bite anything short of a tank or a reinforced building. Many Drones make it faster. A Soldier could fight through a city by smashing through and a spacecraft by going through bulkheads. A Predator will virtually shred a tank and can breach an armored spacecraft from the outside. War Queen can use (Real Life, not In-Character) vehicles as weapons, and in a Combat Suit, can use medium tanks as clubs."

The description of the durability of the Tech Queen was described as "small-caliber could eventually kill you with good aim and a lot of bullets", while" it would never do much more than irritate the Predator." Body Queens are more durable. I'm not saying "Yeah, you should totally solo a standard militia unit as the Body Queen", but it is just this side of possible to survive that encounter if it's done in Active Tactical Mode. Passive, probably not.

WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE BETTER FULL AUTORAILGUNS. WE HAVE PURPOSE TO DESTROY; PURPOSE FULFILLED BY HEAVILY ADAPTED PREDATORS!

Yes.

Spoiler: No, You Can't Invent This With L1 Tech Drones (click to show/hide)

Damage: Extremely High
Penetration: Very High
Range: High
Accuracy: High
Rate of Fire: High
Ammunition Capacity: 25 Rods

First: Diplomacy isn't our style

"You don't understand the concept of peace. Why live next to a competitor and allow it to consume resources? Best to kill it and consume their resources. Competition is inevitable, and We did not climb out of the swamps of Our world by not devouring and destroying everything not of Us or the Flowers. The enemy of Our enemy is Our enemy's enemy... You consider the nature of an agreement not based on hostility. Slavery appears to be a rather good option, as hostility should only be generated by lack of survival conditions being met. Aside from this... Such an interaction would rely on Your ability to provide for their needs. They would have to be of use beyond as experiments, such as physical labor, diversion, and to fight and die for you. This would require their assimilation into the Hive."

Unlike the Tech Queen from the last thread, You're not particularly concerned about "racial purity" and such; if You can create H-Caste Kai, that's just fine and dandy.

[QuakeIV]

Look, point is how the fuck are we supposed to get enough of that to truly face them this early on?  They have an entire civilization and industrial ecology.  We have a cave.

I think the safer bet is to build up elsewhere (another system), then come back and murder the humans if they are even worthwhile at that point.

[Xantalos]

Look, point is how the fuck are we supposed to get enough of that to truly face them this early on?  They have an entire civilization and industrial ecology.  We have a cave.

I think the safer bet is to build up elsewhere (another system), then come back and murder the humans if they are even worthwhile at that point.

Invent Tony Stark-class drones?

[javierpwn]

But we can still steal their rail guns, and other varios things.

Next time we get a royal jelly, I'm up for having ourselves a camouflaged scout. We need to do some exploring of the surface for biomass and such; maybe even abandoned/broken human tech

[Xantalos]

But we can still steal their rail guns, and other varios things.

Next time we get a royal jelly, I'm up for having ourselves a camouflaged scout. We need to do some exploring of the surface for biomass and such; maybe even abandoned/broken human tech

+1

[QuakeIV]

But we can still steal their rail guns, and other varios things.

Can we get the numbers/resources to face them before they nuke us from orbit?  We need to get the hell away.

[Ross Vernal]

Possibly. Queens develop 100 eggs every 14 days, Commanders do 40 every 14 days. We'll have produced 2 more units of Royal Jelly, so that means 2 more Queens are possible. We'll assume for this that we can create backup hives:

By Day 14: 3 Queens, 7 Commanders, 90 Kai
By Day 28: 9 Queens, 21 Commanders, 670 Kai
By Day 42: 27 Queens, 63 Commanders, 2,410 Kai
By Day 56: 81 Queens, 189 Commanders, 7,630 Kai
By Day 70: 243 Queens, 567 Commanders 23,290 Kai
By Day 84: 729 Queens, 1701 Commanders, 70,270 Kai
By Day 98: 2187 Queens, 5103 Commanders, 211,210 Kai
By Day 112: 6561 Queens, 15309 Commanders, 634,030 Kai

That's assuming that 10% of the Queen batches are dedicated for breeding purposes.