Everyone
[Also, are you going to trust the lynch to the two most lurkiest players in the game?
Behold:
TIRUIN: 2 posts. Last posted: 33 hours ago
OTTOFAR: 3 posts. Last posted: 41 hours ago
Where lurk = offline due to timezones and me regaining my sleep debt?
Pretty much. Though..Mostly my fault. Bad choice to have left the laptop on in the past day. >_>
Unvote.How do you view Lurking, by the way,
NQT? Compared to the cases given and taken, lurkers seem the best D1 lynch?
Lenglon
NQT: you have been more active here than you were in the revolution, and greatly changed your style and attitude, why?
[With Revolution, the game was in the bag and as a spy I wasn't really that bothered in making the effort to uncover spies. Here though I'm engaged with the game, I want to root out the witches and I know I have to pay attention if we have a hope of winning this thing.]
I'm curious then. This feels more like a subtle diversion from the 'change in style and attitude' query. Anyone can say they want to root out the witches//pay attention--something connected to your playstyle in previous games.
Point taken though, your attention as you believe should be placed where in the start? I see your point now in asking the roles/profession, however what would your reaction be if a player was lying?
In the situation of the player admitting to the lie or being caught out, will there be any difference?
[spoiler@Toaster/Toonyman's prod on my prod on NQT]
Tiruin:
NQT
"Bonjour everyone! My name is Katherine Boulengier and I am a journeyman carpenter, new to this ville. Alors! It is most effroyable to be quarantined like so, and our best hope is to find zese mauvais witches as rapidly as possible. To facilitate zis, I suggest we all share our names and professions."
"Alright, how is sharing one's identity even going to help here? Or possibly track who is a witch or not? If these things were such, then the inquisition would be easily finding them by now. Unless it is the inquisition, which I doubt.
"Still. My name is Gillette Doulze, an aid to my father's inn. I am not from this town, but on errands from my father and sternly advised by my mother. Local marketplace groceries and such. This seems to be a very strange point you're making. Meaning that you didn't continue on this point you made from earlier."
Now, earlier I said I was suspicious about the claims, aye? Here's my suspicion. While this does avert the notion of people not knowing each other (and on the notion of being a common point given the idea that scum only know alignment difference and all that), this is strange in itself in asking the name and profession and connecting it with directly finding witches.
What would you hope to gain other than knowing our name and probable profession?
I find it odd that you vote NQT for asking for claims then immediately proceed to claiming yourself anyway. Why is asking for it scummy when you're willing to do it anyway?
Toaster is right here, you did what Okami did a few days ago and it still bothers me to contradict yourself like that. I think in Okami's case he said soft-claiming is the right way to go (as a bunch of people have agreed, like Dariush and Toaster and me), but NQT's action to claim and then tell everybody else that they should claim was a bit forceful and leads to suspicion.
[/spoiler]
*Ahem*
Let me clarify. My vote was a pressure vote--something I usually do at the start of the game or within my first posts so I can start building up along the way.
I find it odd that you vote NQT for asking for claims then immediately proceed to claiming yourself anyway. Why is asking for it scummy when you're willing to do it anyway?
Toaster is right here, you did what Okami did a few days ago and it still bothers me to contradict yourself like that.
I said suspicion, which generally pokes at the intention and doesn't outright announce it as scummy. It could either be a backroom motive, or some quirk in his intention. My reply would've been 'I'm waiting on NQT's answer, then I'll explain'.
What I was thinking at the time was what NQT himself stated--matching up roles and probable events later on, but his reply was the crucial part of it.
The minutiae of the setting are integral to this set up. The chief point of this game is that each player embodies a unique and distinct role. Town ought to tell the truth about their name and profession, as if they are found to be lying about this simple information, then we have grounds for suspicion.
Unique and distinct role, despite some players claiming differing roles and mundane stories.
Also, if there'd be any question on why I'm repeating (or looking like I'm repeating; I tend to go on my own reads and ask about them during the time..time which I didn't have.).
Vector: Up till recent time, I note your duel with Lenglon--what do you exactly see with her motives and/or intentions? It isn't exactly clear on what you're forwarding,
I apologized because I knew several of you wouldn't understand my view on this.
Really? No one is making anyone RP, so I'm not sure who or what you're worried about.
As far as I can see what she meant, it was directed at
this. Her claim -- "won't understand my view on this"
. I've decided to be me. (and you have no idea how much time i've wasted trying to figure out how to stay in character and failing at it - seriously, this post alone has taken me over two hours of write-rewrite-rerewrite-rererewrite-rerererewrite, where I tried over and over to stay in character without becoming something that I don't want to, and failing at it every. single. time.)
Which came to me as her just coming to terms with her role, and character as well as laying down notes on who (s)he currently is. A note for further perusal later on.
However I'm confused. By recent posts, it's mostly all angled towards her. I sense you're trying to scope her out: Her intention or motive and why she's posting like such? What has made her such a prominent target for you?
NQT along with the questions stated above, I've to ask this.
Vector
Everyone
[Think about this carefully. If I'm scum, where's my scum team to make an alternative case? Look at the votes-- they're evenly spread except for on me. I'm willing to bet that this pattern has never been seen on a day 1 scum lynch before. All it takes for evil to prevail is you all doing nothing.
This is a bag of WIFOM horseshit. Can you honestly do nothing better for yourself?
[OK. I know I'm the only person on this subforum that thinks voting patterns are informative. Ignore that part if it doesn't gel with you. I can see where your coming from in that if I genuinely was scum then this is the sort of argument I might make. It's frustrating for me as I know you're all on track for a mislynch and I'm pretty desperate that we avoid this, but I realise that my ways of defending myself often backfire.]
Picking up on this tangent, why did you use the ol' "If I'm x, why is there y to denounce what is happening.." and stuff.
You prod at vote patterns. Something I note you did before, yet I'm not relying on that to provide pertinent evidence to the game. The only way vote patterns would be used is if, in my opinion:
> Scum really
really want to see this person lynched and are picking/nitpicking on their mistakes.
> The person has committed an error, and scum are pushing it along the line, riding on the mistake to seem townish enough.
What I don't see is your defense on the point. You have good points, I'll give you that, but your first sentence starts with that sort of notion?
I mean you did type out what you saw on the matters posted about you in the second part. That's all well and good, but then you go along a supervisory role.
3. Toaster seemed to be calling me out as 3rd party for being out of town when he was out of town, so damn right I was indignant. On a reread it seems more to have been a persistent misreading of one another's intentions.
What Toaster said was a query with a vote.
Your answer was
...nebulous, but given the answer to that type of question, that's much expected.
His answer is something you didn't follow up on. Why?
Town, it's your job to critically examine the votes against the Day 1 lynch lead. Do it.
Also, why do you need to tell this?
Tiruin
[I don't care if your busy, you've done nothing of value all game. Replace out if you don't have time. Don't just bandwagon then disappear. That's scummy whichever way you swing it.]
*When I say I'm busy, I don't use the lurky-lazy attitude. That's just wrong, but a huge err on my part for not announcing how hectic my time is spaced out.*
And..bandwagon? Already? That's something to come by rather than poke at what the context is.
ToasterSo I've seen what parts you're voting NQT for-is it worth it, though? Perceived deflection, which 'sorta' came off as the same note as a feeling more than a fact is the best case you could put against him?
For..the case on being or not being a third-party?
Your vote sticks on him without further clarification and a conclusion with a weak foundation.
Your
next posts follow it up, but not in a way a townie usually does it. What I see you're doing is negative communication.
Backhanding his post, and inflating...what. Something not even within the idea of malevolent intent. Your conclusion is pretty much laughable, given how you wasted a post just giving him a retort when his concern is placed in the right part.
What's up there?