Fine Rolepgeek. I will debate you fully. I no longer give you the benefit of the doubt.
Your right, the, I suppose. Sexism doesn't exist anymore.
Redherring. I didn't imply nor state this
It's not like women get paid less than men on average.
Women get paid equal to men in low paying jobs as well as generally choosing lower paying jobs on average (Yeah that surprised me too), and not in the "they chose less worthwhile jobs" I mean they will often go into work in the non-profit stream and make less, there seems to be more of a push for women to get personally gratifying jobs.
What they found while studying how much women earn is while this is still true, it isn't AS true as the raw statistic would make it seem. It is actually a very interesting subject if you look into it.
But aside from that lets skip ahead on the "putting words in my mouth" section.
being male doesn't have anything to do with those things. It has far more to do with how you interpret the things you see, and hear
Bias exists, it will always exist and no matter what it will do so. Yet remember..
A woman also has bias, and I could easily say that being a woman means that she will see more bias then is actually there because sexism is more directed towards her, so it is more personal, so she will remember it more.
Yet I never go "Well your a woman, obviously because you are a woman you see sexism when it isn't there and thus I should devalue your opinion out of hand".
I don't feel a sense of hypocrisy because this happens all the time.
If you don't feel a sense of hypocrisy because it simply happens often. It simply means you have become blind to the very sexism you are trying to stop. You are blind to simply understanding basic human decency and conversation.
No one respects someone who doesn't respect them back. Why would a man respect a debate where they are ousted for being a man?
You guys are trying to tell a woman that there isn't sexism.
Redherring. No one is saying that
You are not exposed to the same amount that a woman would be.
Not all women have the same experiences. As well the question is whether or not we are exposed to the same amount of sexism presented in a form of media, in which case men would be simply by virtue of using same media.
Thus, you are wrong to try to tell her that. You understand why that is, right?
Redherring.
. All examples are pieces of anecdotal evidence, but this one is interesting. The Elliot Rodger mass shooting. Now, he killed a bunch of people, claiming it was because he was smart, he had the good grades, why couldn't he get a girlfriend? Now, this is sexist, but it's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is how the news was constantly going 'whatever caused this, we shal never know, we could never have predicted it!' Except we should have been able to. He had a blog, social media, a crapton of things where he talked about how he was going to go out and kill women, how he hated them for not going out with him, etc. And it was lost in the background noise, of the thousands of blogs like that, out there, right now. People were talking about 'that could have been me...right up to the shooting part'. That's why this country(if not the world, but it's pretty damn bad in America) is sexist, in so many ways
That is typical regardless of whether or not there was gender related hate. If you study psychopaths you will find that many of them had blogs about how they hated one group, how they hurt animals, or what have you and often these went completely unnoticed until after the shooting.
That isn't an indication of sexism because at no point does sexism enter your story. It is about some loser who felt like an outcast and blamed it on women because they spurned his advances (probably because he was a loser). It would have occurred in a completely unsexist society.
Trust me actual psychos who target women, tend to get their stuff brought out. Then again I live in Canada where there is actually a day of the year where we mourn a killing of several women by a murderer (they were engineering students I believe). Now that story was quite a bit more about sexism.