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[MarcAFK]

I tend to have somewhat frequent visual hallucinations, I attribute this to my poor vision ( i wear glasses) and somewhat due to minor sleep deprivation.
I recall learning recently from an xkcd comic that most of your visual information is basically invented by your brain based on what little you actually see, so I'm not too surprised about the frequency of 'artifacts' in my visual field.
Basically everything you see is a composite of several different types of receptors with highest colour concentration and resolution in the centre of your vision, your mind needs to combine this data, equalise the colour perception for washed out images on edges of the frame, flip the image and also adjust for the blind spots in each eye.
So frankly I'm surprised Artifacts aren't far more common.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I can play songs from memory in my head. Are you all capable of that?

[Facekillz058]

Mary Had A Little Lamb, 'nuff said.

[GlyphGryph]

. http://www.primarypsychiatry.com/aspx/articledetail.aspx?articleid=437

A hallucination is a perception experienced in the absence of an external stimulus.
Hallucinations come from “within,”although patients react to them as if they are external.
Pseudohallucinations are experiences that are similar to hallucinations but do not meet all the requirements of the definition of hallucinations

And does this say, anywhere, that it has to be indistinguishable from reality?

Again, what you are talking about is delusions, which don't even REQUIRE hallucinations. Delusions are about beliefs. Hallucinations are simply about sensations.

If feels "real", yes. It's external, yes. But it is perfectly possible to recognize that the extremely loud sounds of car crashes that seem to be coming from every corner of the room and just won't stop are not real. They still feel 100% like external stimuli. But you can still know they aren't real.

Seriously, you are like one of those fucking assholes that tell people they wouldn't be so depressed all the time if they could "just learn to appreciate the little things and cheer up a little". Or people who say I can't have depression because they occasionally see me smiling and laughing and otherwise enjoying myself. Would you argue that I have some sort of "pseudo-depression", because I can be well aware that I'm depressed? You have no understanding of what you are talking about, and quite frankly it is insulting.

And are you seriously trying to say, that a "hallucination" magically stops being exactly that as soon as you deduce it isn't real? That even though nothing has changed in the experience itself, the phenomena is different?

Because if this IS what you are saying, you're working off of what amount to essentially useless definitions that only serve to muddle relatively clear issues, so why bother trying to participate in a conversation at all? You're creating an arbitrary class of "things that exactly like hallucinations, except in this one way that's not mentioned in any literature and no one else feels is important but me". Next you'll be arguing that an illusion is only an illusion if you don't know it's happening or something crazy stupid like that, sheesh...

[Fniff]

I don't often hallucinate, but once waking up way earlier then I should have I heard a voice right by my ear go "Bus-stop, bus-stop". I knew it wasn't real but it creeped the living hell out of me. Possibly because I read too much creepypasta. I assume now that it's most likely a hallucination.

[GlyphGryph]

Specifically, if it was as you were just waking up, it's most likely a hypnagogic hallucination (which is perfectly normal for overall healthy people to experience).

[ChairmanPoo]

waah waah

To be honest I only read about the first three lines of your post and got bored of your inane rant. So it pisses you off to get corrected in public? That's your problem. If you're going to use technical words, at least try to use them properly.

[Loud Whispers]

Civil discussion guys :/

[HavingPhun]

Civil discussion guys :/

To add to this^:

Any discussion is fine, as long as you don't bicker.  If you have a question to ask, try Life Advice.

If you are roleplaying or starting a forum game, go for Forum Games.

Play nice and please respect the overall intentions of the thread creators.  Thread creators, please be clear about your intentions and don't hesitate to report developing problems with the moderator report button.

Just saying.

[Lorak]

I just came in here to help educate ChairmanPoo, because he is wrong, and people aren't allowed to be wrong on the internet.

A hallucination is only the perception of something that is not actually there.  It doesn't matter whether or not it is indistinguishable from reality.  Is it -possible- for a hallucination to be indistinguishable from reality?  Yes.  Does it -have- to be?  No.

Of course, just because you know it's not real doesn't mean it can't scare the crap out of you anyway.

[ChairmanPoo]

Lorak, by textbook definition the term "hallucination" doesn't really apply to the situation you describe (read back one or two pages for a link). As I said before, the distinctions made between these phenomena are important because they appear in and actually help to differenciate different clinical conditions.

[GlyphGryph]

So it pisses you off to get corrected in public?

No, it pisses me off when people spew garbage while trying to assert their superiority. It pisses me off when people copy paste a source as the entirety of their arguments and don't even bother taking the time to read what they've pasted to check and see if it actually support their statement.

I don't mind being corrected. But "being corrected" requires the other person to be right.

[Cheeetar]

waah waah

To be honest I only read about the first three lines of your post and got bored of your inane rant. So it pisses you off to get corrected in public? That's your problem. If you're going to use technical words, at least try to use them properly.

Wow. Even if you hadn't completely ignored his argument, the fact that you're so obviously wrong and yet so aggressive about your position is incredibly off putting. Please calm down.

[ChairmanPoo]

Calm down? He's the one who wrote fourth paragraphs of virulent diatribe against me. Not that I particularily care about his opinion but my standard policy is to skim through that kind of shit. And that's pretty much the last I have to say about GlyphGlyph and his antics.

By the way, I stand by my original point. Awareness  of a hallucination implies it's something else - this is relevant because we're talking about different symptoms, which is what might push a differential diagnosis one way or the other

[GlyphGryph]

But you haven't actually provided any evidence for your position.

The link you provided said nothing about awareness being a defining attribute of a hallucination - it didn't even mention it.

And I'll repeat my question:
IF a person is hallucinating, but halfway through they realize it can't be real and thus they must be hallucinating, does it suddenly stop being a hallucination, despite the fact that their experience of the phenomena does not change?