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[kg333]

As far as alien goes, to my knowledge the gamemode is not functional in the tgstation codebase.  It's not usually a random event, so most of them on Urist McStation have been admin spawned (traitor left, there's a newbie dead who would like to spawn back in, etc.)

Secret mode has various other modes enabled, including cult and changeling, but all modes other than traitor have minimum server populations we don't usually hit.  If there's no admin on to spawn a changeling or aliens, mostly likely the mode will be extended or traitor.

Suggestion: since we can't start any round except traitor, perhaps shennigans such as the Atmosia Independence Declaration could be started with ahelped admin approval? It would add some flavor to the usual traitor/event mix.

As long as you abide by "keep your actions fun for everyone", and any admins on the server are on board with it, feel free.

KG

[Android]

Goonstation has their own codebase and should not be considered within the context of what content is in the TG code

edit: KG, I would suggest updating the map again because updates r5779 and r5780 corrects some mistakes they did when they altered the map yesterday

[kg333]

edit: KG, I would suggest updating the map again because updates r5779 and r5780 corrects some mistakes they did when they altered the map yesterday

Yup, saw that and was planning on updating the map again soon.  Thanks for bringing it up though!

KG

[electronics]

Kg333... I think you might have messed up my rank unintentionally... I have rank GameMasterElectronics and it's messed up all my verbs (I have some... and those that I do I don't have access to use).

[jhxmt]

Reducing the number of players required to start a round would presumably be a fairly quick fix? (each gamemode has its own required_players number, which I presume is all that's locking them out), but I don't know what else that might impact...there are presumably some reasons for having a minimum number of players for changeling, for instance ("Oh you're the only other guy on the station and we know one of us is an alien.  What a mystery.").

[Twiggie]

Finally won a round as traitor.

Mmmm gibs in the evac shuttle.
There was no AI and the captain left halfway through or something, though, so I  suppose it doesnt really count.

[kg333]

Reducing the number of players required to start a round would presumably be a fairly quick fix? (each gamemode has its own required_players number, which I presume is all that's locking them out), but I don't know what else that might impact...there are presumably some reasons for having a minimum number of players for changeling, for instance ("Oh you're the only other guy on the station and we know one of us is an alien.  What a mystery.").

That would work for some gamemodes, but others, particularly cult, behave badly with low numbers of players.

Also, sorry about that Electronics, I was attempting to add Bay12 names as a comment in the config and screwed it up.  It should go back to normal on next server reset.

KG

[Aklyon]

Reducing the number of players required to start a round would presumably be a fairly quick fix? (each gamemode has its own required_players number, which I presume is all that's locking them out), but I don't know what else that might impact...there are presumably some reasons for having a minimum number of players for changeling, for instance ("Oh you're the only other guy on the station and we know one of us is an alien.  What a mystery.").

Cult needs a minimum of people to get anywhere, Changeling can't do objectives that ask for 6 genomes if theres only 5 people on the station, to name a couple problems.

[scrdest]

That would work for some gamemodes, but others, particularly cult, behave badly with low numbers of players.

You say a station full of Space Cthulhu cultists is bad, I say it's hilarious.

[jhxmt]

That would work for some gamemodes, but others, particularly cult, behave badly with low numbers of players.

Cult needs a minimum of people to get anywhere, Changeling can't do objectives that ask for 6 genomes if theres only 5 people on the station, to name a couple problems.

Yeah, setting them all without limit would no doubt lead to some bad (or, worse, unsolvable!) situations - I guess that's why the limits were there in the first place.    Could they maybe be lowered, though?  Changeling could presumably work with a limit of 10 (they only have to absorb five genomes, right?), Cult could be a few more or less, Wizard...well, wizard probably needs quite a few, as we discovered, but does it need twenty?

Edit: actually, yeah, upon further reflection lowering those limits probably does start to butt up against the 'everybody's a <insert antagonist name here> and we've got nobody to <insert form of antagonisation here>' problem...

Although having round-the-timezones admins avoids a lot of this, of course!  Start in one of the available modes and just get an admin to add in whatever fun thing is wanted/feared. 

[kg333]

That would work for some gamemodes, but others, particularly cult, behave badly with low numbers of players.

You say a station full of Space Cthulhu cultists is bad, I say it's hilarious.

Oh, I have no problem with stations full of Space Cthulu cultists, it's just they need a certain number of warm bodies to summon Space Cthulu in the first place.  And what's the point of being a cultist who can't get enough blood to sacrifice to your deity?

KG

[Aklyon]

That would work for some gamemodes, but others, particularly cult, behave badly with low numbers of players.

You say a station full of Space Cthulhu cultists is bad, I say it's hilarious.

Oh, I have no problem with stations full of Space Cthulu cultists, it's just they need a certain number of warm bodies to summon Space Cthulu in the first place.  And what's the point of being a cultist who can't get enough blood to sacrifice to your deity?

KG

I think theres a cult spell you can use (if you don't die in the process) to boost your numbers via ghost army.

[TheZoomZoll]

We have about 7-8 players now and I am playing music by request and doing some random stuff.

Its playable now with this ammount of players so if anybody wants to hop in feel free.

[miauw62]

Atmosia Independence gamemode?

Fuck yes.

E: And I suggest changing lings to just spawn one ling and then lower the limit to 10 people. Or have two gamemodes: low-player and high-player.

[TheZoomZoll]

Well I am off to sleep guys.

Its 23:06 over here in Europe and I will be back tomorrow.

Perhaps an American or somebody else can watch the server?