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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7290 on: July 04, 2014, 09:56:56 am »

There's also the land-border in Ireland.
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« Reply #7291 on: July 04, 2014, 09:58:45 am »

"And 95% of the nation's imports arrive by sea,"

... How can 5% of an island nations imports not arrive by sea? Plane? ... That's a LOT of air imports. I thought that wasn't economical. >_>

Maybe they are counting land trade between Scotland (I know it's not a 100% independent country yet) and Britian and theres the chunnel where trade is definetly going through.

There's also the land-border in Ireland.

I thought there wasn't a solid land bridge between UK and Ireland? I'm sure there are bridges though and like I said, theres also the channel tunnel.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7292 on: July 04, 2014, 10:00:13 am »

France tunnel.

And Northern Ireland is the U.K.
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« Reply #7293 on: July 04, 2014, 10:01:54 am »

There are theory that Putin intentionally utilizes guys like Strelkov because they may create Russian Right Sector and lead Russian Maidan
There's already a Russian Right Sector. They're called "United Russia". Putin's dream is a far-right, proto-fascist regime, dude. It's not something to be proud of.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7294 on: July 04, 2014, 10:10:09 am »

Ah, right, I forgot about the Chunnel, and I guess imports from Ireland to Northern Ireland would count as "land imports."

Would those count as land imports if they were only passing through to go onto the rest of the U.K.?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7295 on: July 04, 2014, 10:12:18 am »

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Yes. If something is imported into the U.K. it is, surprisingly, an import into the U.K. no matter where it moves within the country.
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« Reply #7296 on: July 04, 2014, 10:14:29 am »

Don't you have to declare where your eventual destination is, though? I could see them going by destination rather than where you cross the border, at least in some record-keeping cases. In which case, it would be by sea.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7297 on: July 04, 2014, 10:15:01 am »

There are theory that Putin intentionally utilizes guys like Strelkov because they may create Russian Right Sector and lead Russian Maidan
There's already a Russian Right Sector. They're called "United Russia". Putin's dream is a far-right, proto-fascist regime, dude. It's not something to be proud of.

sir are you calling right sector fascists

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we had this discussion there multiple times

go read up on it and then tell me why they're fascists again
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« Reply #7298 on: July 04, 2014, 10:19:16 am »

They're certainly on the path, if nothing else.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7299 on: July 04, 2014, 10:25:11 am »

Putin is an Imperialist, not an idiot. He's got what he wanted - Ukraine has been destabilised to the Nth degree and Crimea has been annexed. The West has been reminded that he is King in that area

Putins actions came at the cost of perhaps a 1.5% decline in Russian GDP per year for the next 10 years.  With an estimate of a 50% return to trend factor (which is probably high in these circumstances), that represents a 600 Billion dollar price tag.

The west hasn't been informed that Putin is "the king" in the area.  It has been informed that he doesn't respond to the incentives that they thought he did.  So Putin will get the sort of carrots and sticks more like what places like Iran get instead of the kinds of carrots and sticks that places like China get.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7300 on: July 04, 2014, 10:36:41 am »

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« Reply #7301 on: July 04, 2014, 10:56:32 am »

On aircraft carriers - I will say, UK's new addition to it's fleet look pretty damn sexy.
Good luck waiting on the first delivery of over-priced, overdeveloped mess that is F-35 though.

You mean the HMS Penis Extension? It's sad to think of what that money could have been spent on at home. Westminster has no sense of priorities though; Labour, Tory or Lib Dem they'd still splash cash senselessly on extremely expensive military equipment while people in districts in Scotland are too poor to buy food and have a life expectancy the same as that of Gaza and North Korea.
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« Reply #7302 on: July 04, 2014, 11:04:56 am »

Yeah, I'm with Owlbread on this one. Massive ships offer terrible value for money.
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« Reply #7303 on: July 04, 2014, 11:06:12 am »

Is Right Sector fascist? Read their manifesto and judge for yourself.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #7304 on: July 04, 2014, 11:06:46 am »

I'm agreeing with Owlbread.

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