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[RAM]

We have no idea what the goblin production rate is...

[GreatWyrmGold]

We have no idea what the goblin production rate is...

Well, we do know they come from those filth pits, which don't take 9 months to build and fill, so even if it's one goblin per pit there's still an advantage.

[RAM]

What if each pit produces one goblin per five years? If they start fully-grown, that would still grant them advantages over humans...

[GreatWyrmGold]

In that case, we deconstruct the pit or make a new one.

[kopout]

? humans are brought by a stork, presumably without a 9 mounth waiting period. Not only that but WE are a goblin, we shouldn't think of them as disposable

[GreatWyrmGold]

? humans are brought by a stork, presumably without a 9 mounth waiting period.

There's still a 10-20-year waiting period.

Not only that but WE are a goblin, we shouldn't think of them as disposable

Well...there are humans that consider other humans disposeable...
But it all depends on the cause. To serve Fellhawk? No question.

[RAM]

I think that we have our own role here, we are not slaves to Fellhawk, just very close allies who do each other favours. Now Fellhawk is important and all, and a few sacrifices can be made to a friend who is, obviously, purely based upon total expected life, much more important than a single goblin, but we certainly have leeway to have disagreements. If we feel that Fellhawk is better served by the followers still being alive and Fellhawk feels that incurring the wrath of the lifers would be hilarious, than I think that we can decide our own methods of worship...

We have no idea how reproduction works, evidently it is a mysterious and magical thing that only those who have witnessed the process can fully appreciate. So lets not make assumptions here...

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'm not making assumptions abotu goblin replacement rates. We've not been here a week, yet the Birthing Pit is almost ready to Birth a goblin.

And as to the "Not Slaves to Fellhawk" thing: Even assuming no divine wrath, there are probably many people willing to die for their god.

[RAM]

The pit is very nearly operational. That does not tell us how long it takes to get a working goblin...

[Tomcost]

There is one thing nobody is considering here: we are dealing with sentient beigns. I am not going to elaborate a speech about the ethic implications of sending someone in a suicide mission, but I'm going to say that if we send a gobbo to a suicide mission, he could simply betray us and join the lifies. And then we would have an army informed about our weaknesses next day at our camp.

[GreatWyrmGold]

1. There are people who go on suicide missions, IRL.
2. To avoid making anyone angry, let's just say that these have a higher-than-random-chance probability of having religious purposes.
3. Religious suicide missions are even more likely when the god in question is sufficiently real and active to invoke its wrath or bestow its blessings.
4. Remind me, what was the suicide mission again?

[Tomcost]

Well, that's true, but there is still a chance of the gobbo betraying us, we don't know how much do they like the god.

Answering 4: the suicide mission was to send a lone gobbo with the Fellaxe to kill the tree, probably causing him to be improsoned and killed. That alternative was suggested and I do not support it. I admit that all depends on probabilities, but, still, I don't like the idea of getting our villagers under very risky situations.

[RAM]

I don't think that we have the right culture to have suicidal folks. I mean, folk are pretty willing to follow commands, but they are all pretty mundane things like getting food for everyone to eat, or making a shelter for everyone to sleep in. It all falls under the basic premise of, help the community and the community will help you. This is more about helping the community by leaving it...

[Aseaheru]

Yes, lets not go killing our workers.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Answering 4: the suicide mission was to send a lone gobbo with the Fellaxe to kill the tree, probably causing him to be improsoned and killed. That alternative was suggested and I do not support it. I admit that all depends on probabilities, but, still, I don't like the idea of getting our villagers under very risky situations.

Remind me, why was that supposed to be a good idea?