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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7890 on: August 03, 2014, 11:18:06 am »

You know, that whole "why don't you go and live in Russia then" thing that Conservatives used to say back in the '70s and '80s could be turned on its head quite nicely now. Maybe American left-wingers can tell right-wingers complaining about LGBT rights and the President not being harsh enough on Muslims or "strong enough" in general or something where they could go.
It's a bit of a trend in Germany right now. Among people dumb enough to use such a retort. Mostly news site comment writers, really.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7891 on: August 03, 2014, 11:54:44 am »

On the other hand, I have heard of conservatives actually leaving to go to Russia...

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7892 on: August 03, 2014, 12:10:10 pm »

The only one I've heard about going to Russia for political reasons is Gerard Depardieu, and he went there because unlike France Russia is still a Tru Socialist Nation and doesn't charge him taxes.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7893 on: August 04, 2014, 05:36:32 am »

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7894 on: August 04, 2014, 05:53:18 am »

To be fair, I think we want to preemptively avoid any calls for Dr. Manhattan cosplay on the senate floor. Gigantic glowing dong may be what the american public deserves, but it's not what most of us want.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7895 on: August 04, 2014, 07:15:40 am »

I was just wondering how anyone got all freaked out by the y2k -> no antibiotics connection :/

In an interesting and on-topic note, there was that simulation of the economy which "crashed" in 2037 and Republican Paul Ryan took this to mean USA ceases to have an economy after 2037 because things got so bad the computer apparently said "fuck this data. America will end now!".

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/mar/21/paul-ryan/paul-ryan-says-cbo-model-self-destructs-due-rising/

It just happens that the 32-bit UNIX time ends in 2037. Coincidence?

EDIT: It seems the CBO regularly uses a specific model for 25 year ahead predictions. So it would make sense for them to trip over this "crash" bug around 2012 (for the dates past 2037) when preparing the next years forecasts.

Paul Ryan specifically said "I asked CBO to run the model going out and they told me that their computer simulation crashes in 2037 because CBO can’t conceive of any way in which the economy can continue past the year 2037 because of debt burdens,” said Ryan."

Maybe Ryan asked them to run their 25-year projection software past the 25 year mark (2037) and they hit the problem for the first time :/
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7896 on: August 04, 2014, 08:48:10 pm »

To be fair, I think we want to preemptively avoid any calls for Dr. Manhattan cosplay on the senate floor. Gigantic glowing dong may be what the american public deserves, but it's not what most of us want.

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7897 on: August 05, 2014, 11:19:48 am »

Invasion of Afghanistan: The sequel is probably going to happen with the assassination of a US general.

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7898 on: August 05, 2014, 11:35:19 am »

It won't. If anything it'll just increase the desire to get the hell out of the place.

(Which may be a bad thing. Like it or not, the Middle East has only destabilized since the US has pulled out.)
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7899 on: August 05, 2014, 12:03:25 pm »

Invasion of Afghanistan: The sequel is probably going to happen with the assassination of a US general.
... major general, which isn't quite the same thing -- couple ranks below general, actually, if I'm reading things correctly. Also, that article didn't seem to actually say who was killed -- all I'm seeing (from that article, and checking others) is that the coalition is saying one is dead and several wounded, with no mention whatsoever as to who they are beyond naming one of the wounded as a german brigadier general.

E: Regardless, I'll be surprised and viciously, incredibly pissed off if something like that is enough to stop us from continuing to pull out. Said it before and will say again: Incredibly goddamn tired of the US sticking its dick in the middle east. Let the UN or freaking whatever deal with that shit.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7900 on: August 05, 2014, 12:16:24 pm »

There is no functional difference between the UN dealing with it and the U.S dealing with it.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7901 on: August 05, 2014, 12:21:47 pm »

There is no functional difference between the UN dealing with it and the U.S dealing with it.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7902 on: August 05, 2014, 12:23:30 pm »

Would be if the US said: No, fuck it, you folks deal with it, we're out. Y'all can have some experts and we'll help train and maybe lend some tech or whatever, but someone else's turn to foot the bill.

Which we seriously should at this point, or at least be working toward. Should have a long damn time ago. We got other things to do besides further fuck over the middle east, damnit.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7903 on: August 05, 2014, 12:28:28 pm »

Would be if the US said: No, fuck it, you folks deal with it, we're out. Y'all can have some experts and we'll help train and maybe lend some tech or whatever, but someone else's turn to foot the bill.

Which we seriously should at this point, or at least be working toward. Should have a long damn time ago. We got other things to do besides further fuck over the middle east, damnit.

Ah, I misunderstood. I was thinking more that "international" military action tends to involve the U.S doing most of the work, but with some halfhearted European backing.

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #7904 on: August 05, 2014, 12:43:33 pm »

Yeah, a lot of it does. Which, y'know, I'd say needs to freaking stop. Don't mind the country helping out or whatev', but shouldering a significant amount of the burden while the rest of the world just sits on their thumbs and functionally diddles themselves is getting more than a little old.

Kudos to them for convincing the states to bleed themselves like this, but it's long past time for the states to step down from this leading the world police bullshit and let the rest of the world shoulder more of the burden. To say nothing about stopping the outright dickery that's not even part of the facsimile of playing international sheriff. Been fed up with this shit since about two seconds into the initial Afghan mobilization back in early 2000s, personally.
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