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[azmodean]

I THINK we have the infinite speed bug sorted out finally, please report if you have an experimental past 0.9-3477 and run into it again.
Zombies don't grab things, I think Funk means NPCs grabbing stuff.
And yes, there's a "classic zombie mode" that cuts out the super science, leaving mostly a classic zombie movie experience.

[Sean Mirrsen]

I THINK we have the infinite speed bug sorted out finally, please report if you have an experimental past 0.9-3477 and run into it again.
Zombies don't grab things, I think Funk means NPCs grabbing stuff.
And yes, there's a "classic zombie mode" that cuts out the super science, leaving mostly a classic zombie movie experience.

Ah, it does that too? I thought it only does what it says it does - i.e. "Spawn only zombies and natural creatures". It should really mention the disabling of advanced technologies in the tooltip. "Also disables certain buildings" is way too vague, and doesn't imply that random loot will also be limited.

On the topic of worldgen options, am I correct in thinking that with "Static NPCs" and "Random NPCs" options both turned off by default, no NPCs will spawn at all?

edit: on the other topic of limiting loot, I took a look at the firearm variety in the game's files. (not much of a spoiler since besides the future-tech which I've already seen, these are mostly real-world) I am deeply saddened by such a lack of variety. Even among the well-recognized firearms, I didn't see a single Beretta. Not to mention that the list of AK modifications alone, even if you take the US market (especially in the US market) would be as long as the whole current list of guns.

[Funk]

Survivors tend to hang around the shelters and they often pick up use full items (of couse if there following then rocks become the best thing ever and they must have them all)

My bike keeps getting better, i've add some storage in the form of 2 floor trunks, 2 more gas tanks (1 small, two normal) and a storage battery.
i Found a new engine (7.12 litter cos fuel economy was yesterday) and a bigger tire 35 inchs wide, now all i need is some more armour.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   Yes, NPCs are currently turned off by default as they can be "buggy" in non-fun game play ways. Rather I guess I should say they where and if one of the devs or someone that uses them can report in on the brokeness of them that would be interesting.

[Sean Mirrsen]

   Yes, NPCs are currently turned off by default as they can be "buggy" in non-fun game play ways. Rather I guess I should say they where and if one of the devs or someone that uses them can report in on the brokeness of them that would be interesting.

Ok, that explains it. Might check the static NPCs out though. At least the zombies will have someone else to kill.

Also, I checked the forums, and apparently the only two weapon mods are either unreleased, or in a weird state of incompleteness. Sadface.

Makes me want to go and add all those weapons myself. I did a pretty good job on my Martial Arts mod for DF back in the day...

[bertix]

My experience as the Punk Rock Girl Survivor, aka How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Apocalypse, indeed, my first pawnshop yielded a Zweihander, and after grinding my skills a little, (I have skill-rust off), my character merrily danced to what I can only imagine was punk rock, as it was the archetype I chose, slicing zombies into bits with a single attack, unfortunately, I also acquired a few addictions which kicked in just as a zombie brute sprinted at me, ending the short but rather colorful life of a misunderstood rebel.

(trench-coats are awesome, and so are army pants)

Edit: Infini-speed has seemingly been fixed, by initializing each enemy's speed base, thank god, I was seriously getting annoyed by the supersonic fat zombies.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   Yes, NPCs are currently turned off by default as they can be "buggy" in non-fun game play ways. Rather I guess I should say they where and if one of the devs or someone that uses them can report in on the brokeness of them that would be interesting.

Ok, that explains it. Might check the static NPCs out though. At least the zombies will have someone else to kill.

Also, I checked the forums, and apparently the only two weapon mods are either unreleased, or in a weird state of incompleteness. Sadface.

Makes me want to go and add all those weapons myself. I did a pretty good job on my Martial Arts mod for DF back in the day...

   Welcome to how Cataclysm became as awesome as it currently is. "Oh something I want isn't in but hey look I can add it" is how the DDA branch basically started. Also now that items are all out in files rather than code you can add them stuff like guns quite easily now. Also on the topic of NPCs, if your gonna have them just turn them on in general as the difference between static and random is that static is a single npc that spawns in your shelter with you last time I checked so doesn't provide much on that front. I don't know if it is stabler or not but its not much of an experience.

[Sean Mirrsen]

   Yes, NPCs are currently turned off by default as they can be "buggy" in non-fun game play ways. Rather I guess I should say they where and if one of the devs or someone that uses them can report in on the brokeness of them that would be interesting.

Ok, that explains it. Might check the static NPCs out though. At least the zombies will have someone else to kill.

Also, I checked the forums, and apparently the only two weapon mods are either unreleased, or in a weird state of incompleteness. Sadface.

Makes me want to go and add all those weapons myself. I did a pretty good job on my Martial Arts mod for DF back in the day...

   Welcome to how Cataclysm became as awesome as it currently is. "Oh something I want isn't in but hey look I can add it" is how the DDA branch basically started. Also now that items are all out in files rather than code you can add them stuff like guns quite easily now. Also on the topic of NPCs, if your gonna have them just turn them on in general as the difference between static and random is that static is a single npc that spawns in your shelter with you last time I checked so doesn't provide much on that front. I don't know if it is stabler or not but its not much of an experience.

Well, I completed a list of... 52 weapons that I'd like to see added. A lot of them russian-made or derived, but no more than a... third or so. Half at most. I am appalled at the lack of a SPAS-12.

Here's a list, with weapon type, ammo count, ammo type, plus notes. Feel free to throw suggestions in.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AKM   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   less inaccurate
AK-74   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   
RPK-74   machinegun   45   5.45x39mm   
PP-19 Bizon   smg   65   9x18mm PM   
Makarov PM   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
Stechkin APS   pistol   20   9x18mm PM   burst fire
PP-91 Kedr   pistol   30   9x18mm PM   
AK-12   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   Both are named the same
AK-12   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   And differ only in description
MP-446 Viking   pistol   10   9mm   
MP-448 Skyph   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
AK-47   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AKM   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-74   rifle   30   5.45x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-103   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
Beretta 92   pistol   15   9mm   
Beretta 96   pistol   12   .40   
Benelli M4   shotgun   8   shot   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   17   9mm   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   14   .40   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   9   .45   
Colt Cobra   revolver   6   .38 Special   
Colt Python   revolver   6   .357 Magnum   
S&W Model 10   revolver   6   .38 Special   
IMI Desert Eagle   pistol   9   .357 Magnum   
Glock 18   pistol   17   9mm   burst fire
SIG Sauer P250   pistol   10   .45   
Thompson SMG   smg   50   .45   
Walther P99   pistol   15   9mm   
Walther PPQ   pistol   15   9mm   
Colt Commander   pistol   9   9mm   
Steyr M9   pistol   17   9mm   
Steyr M40   pistol   12   .40   
Dragunov MPD   machinegun   100   7.62x39mm   
Dragunov SVD   sniper rifle   10   7.62x54mm   
Dragunov SVU   sniper rifle   20   7.62x54mm   
H&K HK21E   machinegun   100   .308   
PKP Pecheneg   machinegun   200   7.62x54mm   
Steyr Scout   sniper rifle   10   .308   
Arctic Warfare Magnum   sniper rifle   10   .338 Lapua Magnum   
Arctic Warfare .50cal   sniper rifle   10   .50 BMG   
Sako TRG   sniper rifle   7   .338 Lapua Magnum   
FAMAS-G2   assault rifle   30   .308   
Galil ACE 22   assault rifle   35   .308   
Galil ACE 32   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
FN F2000   assault rifle   30   .308   
.50 double rifle   rifle   2   .50 BMG   burst fire
H&K CAWS   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Pancor Jackhammer   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Remington Spartan 310   shotgun   2   shot   burst fire
SPAS-12   shotgun   9   shot   
Winchester Model 1200   shotgun   6   shot   

Also, apparently the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 (pump-action shotguns) are capable of 3-round burst fire, according to current item data. That won't do.

[scrdest]

   Yes, NPCs are currently turned off by default as they can be "buggy" in non-fun game play ways. Rather I guess I should say they where and if one of the devs or someone that uses them can report in on the brokeness of them that would be interesting.

Ok, that explains it. Might check the static NPCs out though. At least the zombies will have someone else to kill.

Also, I checked the forums, and apparently the only two weapon mods are either unreleased, or in a weird state of incompleteness. Sadface.

Makes me want to go and add all those weapons myself. I did a pretty good job on my Martial Arts mod for DF back in the day...

   Welcome to how Cataclysm became as awesome as it currently is. "Oh something I want isn't in but hey look I can add it" is how the DDA branch basically started. Also now that items are all out in files rather than code you can add them stuff like guns quite easily now. Also on the topic of NPCs, if your gonna have them just turn them on in general as the difference between static and random is that static is a single npc that spawns in your shelter with you last time I checked so doesn't provide much on that front. I don't know if it is stabler or not but its not much of an experience.

Well, I completed a list of... 52 weapons that I'd like to see added. A lot of them russian-made or derived, but no more than a... third or so. Half at most. I am appalled at the lack of a SPAS-12.

Here's a list, with weapon type, ammo count, ammo type, plus notes. Feel free to throw suggestions in.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AKM   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   less inaccurate
AK-74   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   
RPK-74   machinegun   45   5.45x39mm   
PP-19 Bizon   smg   65   9x18mm PM   
Makarov PM   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
Stechkin APS   pistol   20   9x18mm PM   burst fire
PP-91 Kedr   pistol   30   9x18mm PM   
AK-12   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   Both are named the same
AK-12   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   And differ only in description
MP-446 Viking   pistol   10   9mm   
MP-448 Skyph   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
AK-47   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AKM   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-74   rifle   30   5.45x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-103   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
Beretta 92   pistol   15   9mm   
Beretta 96   pistol   12   .40   
Benelli M4   shotgun   8   shot   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   17   9mm   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   14   .40   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   9   .45   
Colt Cobra   revolver   6   .38 Special   
Colt Python   revolver   6   .357 Magnum   
S&W Model 10   revolver   6   .38 Special   
IMI Desert Eagle   pistol   9   .357 Magnum   
Glock 18   pistol   17   9mm   burst fire
SIG Sauer P250   pistol   10   .45   
Thompson SMG   smg   50   .45   
Walther P99   pistol   15   9mm   
Walther PPQ   pistol   15   9mm   
Colt Commander   pistol   9   9mm   
Steyr M9   pistol   17   9mm   
Steyr M40   pistol   12   .40   
Dragunov MPD   machinegun   100   7.62x39mm   
Dragunov SVD   sniper rifle   10   7.62x54mm   
Dragunov SVU   sniper rifle   20   7.62x54mm   
H&K HK21E   machinegun   100   .308   
PKP Pecheneg   machinegun   200   7.62x54mm   
Steyr Scout   sniper rifle   10   .308   
Arctic Warfare Magnum   sniper rifle   10   .338 Lapua Magnum   
Arctic Warfare .50cal   sniper rifle   10   .50 BMG   
Sako TRG   sniper rifle   7   .338 Lapua Magnum   
FAMAS-G2   assault rifle   30   .308   
Galil ACE 22   assault rifle   35   .308   
Galil ACE 32   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
FN F2000   assault rifle   30   .308   
.50 double rifle   rifle   2   .50 BMG   burst fire
H&K CAWS   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Pancor Jackhammer   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Remington Spartan 310   shotgun   2   shot   burst fire
SPAS-12   shotgun   9   shot   
Winchester Model 1200   shotgun   6   shot   

Also, apparently the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 (pump-action shotguns) are capable of 3-round burst fire, according to current item data. That won't do.

They don't. I have one right now as a Lab Tech, it cannot be switched to burst.

[Steelmagic]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AKM   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   less inaccurate
AK-74   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   
RPK-74   machinegun   45   5.45x39mm   
PP-19 Bizon   smg   65   9x18mm PM   
Makarov PM   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
Stechkin APS   pistol   20   9x18mm PM   burst fire
PP-91 Kedr   pistol   30   9x18mm PM   
AK-12   assault rifle   30   5.45x39mm   Both are named the same
AK-12   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   And differ only in description
MP-446 Viking   pistol   10   9mm   
MP-448 Skyph   pistol   10   9x18mm PM   
AK-47   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AKM   rifle   30   7.62x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-74   rifle   30   5.45x39mm   single-shot US variant
AK-103   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
Beretta 92   pistol   15   9mm   
Beretta 96   pistol   12   .40   
Benelli M4   shotgun   8   shot   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   17   9mm   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   14   .40   
Beretta Px4 Storm   pistol   9   .45   
Colt Cobra   revolver   6   .38 Special   
Colt Python   revolver   6   .357 Magnum   
S&W Model 10   revolver   6   .38 Special   
IMI Desert Eagle   pistol   9   .357 Magnum   
Glock 18   pistol   17   9mm   burst fire
SIG Sauer P250   pistol   10   .45   
Thompson SMG   smg   50   .45   
Walther P99   pistol   15   9mm   
Walther PPQ   pistol   15   9mm   
Colt Commander   pistol   9   9mm   
Steyr M9   pistol   17   9mm   
Steyr M40   pistol   12   .40   
Dragunov MPD   machinegun   100   7.62x39mm   
Dragunov SVD   sniper rifle   10   7.62x54mm   
Dragunov SVU   sniper rifle   20   7.62x54mm   
H&K HK21E   machinegun   100   .308   
PKP Pecheneg   machinegun   200   7.62x54mm   
Steyr Scout   sniper rifle   10   .308   
Arctic Warfare Magnum   sniper rifle   10   .338 Lapua Magnum   
Arctic Warfare .50cal   sniper rifle   10   .50 BMG   
Sako TRG   sniper rifle   7   .338 Lapua Magnum   
FAMAS-G2   assault rifle   30   .308   
Galil ACE 22   assault rifle   35   .308   
Galil ACE 32   assault rifle   30   7.62x39mm   
FN F2000   assault rifle   30   .308   
.50 double rifle   rifle   2   .50 BMG   burst fire
H&K CAWS   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Pancor Jackhammer   shotgun   10   shot   burst fire
Remington Spartan 310   shotgun   2   shot   burst fire
SPAS-12   shotgun   9   shot   
Winchester Model 1200   shotgun   6   shot   

Also, apparently the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 (pump-action shotguns) are capable of 3-round burst fire, according to current item data. That won't do.

I'd Like to add the:

FN FNC 5.56x45mm

Mosin Nagant 7.62x54mm

[Sean Mirrsen]

They don't. I have one right now as a Lab Tech, it cannot be switched to burst.

Well, that's not what the data files say. Perhaps it was amended in the latest experimental? Gotta try that out and check what changed.

I'd Like to add the:

FN FNC 5.56x45mm

Mosin Nagant 7.62x54mm

Okay, adding to list. I'll even toss in the "Obrez" sawn-off "handgun" variant of the Mosin.

[Funk]

Id like a set home made black powder weapons.
Most of them will be single shot but some will be twin barrel, long reload times (about 20 secs) all round.
Crafting one should be the same as the other pipe weapons but need a lighter for the lock.

Black powder being in this case being made from charcoal, Potassium nitrate and sulfur.
Or you can just disassemble normal bullets and use there powder (what else are you going to use .22 rat shot for?)

[scrdest]

On this playthough in the latest experimental, I found a rapier. Daaaamn, this weapon is nice, although it's mostly for high Agility builds.

Id like a set home made black powder weapons.
Most of them will be single shot but some will be twin barrel, long reload times (about 20 secs) all round.
Crafting one should be the same as the other pipe weapons but need a lighter for the lock.

Black powder being in this case being made from charcoal, Potassium nitrate and sulfur.
Or you can just disassemble normal bullets and use there powder (what else are you going to use .22 rat shot for?)

You need to play more Cataclysm, this is already a thing.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Slam-fire: led to nicknames like 'trench-sweeper'. I think the rem/mossbergs can be modified to allow it, (though it's disabled by default).

However, inspite of the 'burst' setting, it doesn't actually work in-game.




Also, good luck. There's at least one vehement opponent of guns 'round here, and more than a few supporters of a 'less guns' setting.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Well, it's not like I'm a developer, heh. Just adding what I think might be neat.

Also, the latest experimental addresses some of the issues, but doesn't manage to include a single weapon from my list. Marvellous.

Also, apparently there are now gunmods. Curious.