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[Mesa]

This kind of makes me a sad panda...
Oh well. Embark anywhere should be helpful in that case.

Either that, or civs actually taking the conquered sites over AFTER worldgen.
It would be awesome if one of us was an assassin (very much plausible now), sneaked into the Mountainhome (I wonder how they look like) and killed the monarch (and the royal family while we're at it).
Imagine the shitstorm unfolding after that.

[Yuli Vlasi]

I already suggested that. Kind of.
According to Toady there will be multiple candidates for the post of the king, including his own heirs and barons. If we, as an example, assasinate every candidate except your fortresses baron, he would become the new king because there's no one else left to do the job. Or you could kill everyone but the kings 3 years-old son, resulting in a child-king. Over the course of many ingame-years we would manipulate the worlds politics immensely.

The problem is that barons probably would get replaced soon after you kill them. Guess you have to kill of entire sites to guarantee your wanna-be-king gets the job.

+ your own nicknamed dwarf can become the leader of an entire civilisation, only to get killed the next turn.

[Mesa]

Not-so-megaproject: Wipe out all but one (or two) civs. Let it thrive for a while and then...
You should know the punchline at this point - start killing them all!

I wonder if secessions will be able to happen at some point in the future.

[WillowLuman]

Not-so-megaproject: Wipe out all but one (or two) civs. Let it thrive for a while and then...
You should know the punchline at this point - start killing them all!

I wonder if secessions will be able to happen at some point in the future.

Probably, but maybe not for this release.

[Spish]

The problem is that barons probably would get replaced soon after you kill them. Guess you have to kill of entire sites to guarantee your wanna-be-king gets the job.

+ your own nicknamed dwarf can become the leader of an entire civilisation, only to get killed the next turn.

Actually, I imagine it's quite a bit easier than that. You elevate your fortress to mountainhome status, the king comes to live there, he has an "unfortunate accident," and one of your dwarves replaces him as king. And, due to the fact that directly tampering with player fortresses is forbidden, your fellow players will have a rather difficult time wrestling away power from your fortress (unless they go through the trouble of doing the same thing, and assuming they even bothered to pick the same civilization)

Though we don't know if barons can assume the role from beyond the realm of the players control, that would be pretty lame. However, it's nothing a good old-fashioned hitman can't fix.

[Mesa]

Hmm...
What about this?

1. Take a pocket world with small amount of civs.
2. Wipe them all out.
3. Commit suicide as the lone wanderer of the world.
4. Allow playing as elf and dwarf outsiders.
5. "Spawn" a couple of each races and put them into remote areas of the world.
6. Go back to doing your thing.
7. See what happens to those lone survivors.


Anyone?

[Eric Blank]

Sounds reasonable, except that those adventurers would have nowhere left to retire to, so the only way to end their adventures is to let them die.

[WillowLuman]

Sounds reasonable, except that those adventurers would have nowhere left to retire to, so the only way to end their adventures is to let them die.

Might still be able to retire to sites even if they're depopulated.

[mastahcheese]

Sounds reasonable, except that those adventurers would have nowhere left to retire to, so the only way to end their adventures is to let them die.

Might still be able to retire to sites even if they're depopulated.

hmmm.... Not sure about this one.
In my experiences, I've been able to retire in a dead site that I've wiped out myself with a different adventurer, but if the site was already dead through world gen, basically stumbling across a ghost town, I've not been able too. But now that the world keeps moving, it might realize when a site is properly emptied, and prohibit it, but then again, once your adventurer retires there, it would have a population of one, making it active again.
We'll just have to wait and see.

[WillowLuman]

We really will. Might be something to ask about on FOTF

[Spish]

Sounds reasonable, except that those adventurers would have nowhere left to retire to, so the only way to end their adventures is to let them die.

However, you can still embark for dead civilizations. So what you do is start a one-man expedition, construct a cozy cabin, retire it, maybe introduce a potential soulmate afterward (since you can retire at player sites), and then let history run its course.

(or just do a seven-man fortress and kill the ones you don't need, whatever)

Another interesting thing you could test is having a couple of every race retire at a player fortress, and seeing how they get along...
Who knows, maybe in 300 years they'll have overcome their differences and developed into a sprawling, multiracial utopia. I'm particularly curious how kobolds would fare in an accepting society, since civilized 'bolds is something that absolutely never happens in worldgen. Hell, throw in some subterranean animal people while you're at it.

[SilverDragon]

I'd love to see a mod for that, the multiracial society, like starting with any of several races. (NOT FOR THIS WORLD THO)

[WillowLuman]

Currently possible, with hax

[SilverDragon]

Oh yeah, forgot about dwarfhacks dfusion. NVM then.

[Eric Blank]

Yeah, retiring a dwarven fortress and then populating it with outcast adventurers of various races sounds like it could result in some interesting impromptu history. All you'd need is to enable those races to be played as outcasts, which can basically be done by adding one little line of code to their entity definition.