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[Aklyon]

I think later you'll have plenty to do with your existing prisoners, what with gang dynamics and all, you won't want for overcrowding, you'll be busy enough dealing with shivs and drug lords already in place.

And also shived drug lords and drug lords with shivs?

[forsaken1111]

So I hope all those save file configuration options get put up front when we start a sandbox game.

What savegame customizations are these now? I'd quite like if I could slow down the prisoner input a bit until I get a handle on the game.

[nenjin]

So I hope all those save file configuration options get put up front when we start a sandbox game.

What savegame customizations are these now? I'd quite like if I could slow down the prisoner input a bit until I get a handle on the game.

There are settings eerily similar to the DF.ini, right at the top of your Prison Architect save file. You can disable prisoner intake entirely, turn off flooding, fire, turn off water and power requirements, and one or two other things as well.

[forsaken1111]

Can you, say, turn off prisoner intake and run the game for a few days and then turn it on? Given 3 days to prepare I'd be on much better footing.

Or can you turn off prisoner intake after you've already gotten some prisoners?

The scramble is fun, but I need to learn and experiment.

[beefy]

I just played the intro mission. Just... wow. I liked it. Good way to get the players interested.

[nenjin]

Can you, say, turn off prisoner intake and run the game for a few days and then turn it on? Given 3 days to prepare I'd be on much better footing.

Or can you turn off prisoner intake after you've already gotten some prisoners?

Both work. When you turn it off it seems to simply nuke the "X hours until prisoners arrive" task.

[forsaken1111]

Can you, say, turn off prisoner intake and run the game for a few days and then turn it on? Given 3 days to prepare I'd be on much better footing.

Or can you turn off prisoner intake after you've already gotten some prisoners?

Both work. When you turn it off it seems to simply nuke the "X hours until prisoners arrive" task.

And turning it back on restores the task? Excellent.

[dennislp3]

Apparently, you can build a large pipe and then build walls, but you cannot build a wall and then pipes.  I think this is a bug?

The pipe thing is NOT a bug...but the developers said they might change it.

The reasoning being that a main water line is a very large and intrusive thing. Walls are built on foundations. Its not being able to make a main pipe though a foundation. Not a bug.

[forsaken1111]

Apparently, you can build a large pipe and then build walls, but you cannot build a wall and then pipes.  I think this is a bug?

The pipe thing is NOT a bug...but the developers said they might change it.

The reasoning being that a main water line is a very large and intrusive thing. Walls are built on foundations. Its not being able to make a main pipe though a foundation. Not a bug.

So you can't build a pipe through a wall but you can build a wall around a pipe? Seems a bit strange. Either way you can just put a small pipe in the wall which works fine

[10ebbor10]

Apparently, you can build a large pipe and then build walls, but you cannot build a wall and then pipes.  I think this is a bug?

The pipe thing is NOT a bug...but the developers said they might change it.

The reasoning being that a main water line is a very large and intrusive thing. Walls are built on foundations. Its not being able to make a main pipe though a foundation. Not a bug.

So you can't build a pipe through a wall but you can build a wall around a pipe? Seems a bit strange. Either way you can just put a small pipe in the wall which works fine

It's a bit hard to drill a perfectly pipe shaped hole in the foundation, but it's much easier to let concrete flow around a pipe. Also, making a pipe go under a wall would require digging a pit on both sides, and then shoving the pipe through, which is a bit hard.

[Girlinhat]

Well, real-world physics aside, it seems to slow down gameplay and make things more annoying.

[forsaken1111]

Apparently, you can build a large pipe and then build walls, but you cannot build a wall and then pipes.  I think this is a bug?

The pipe thing is NOT a bug...but the developers said they might change it.

The reasoning being that a main water line is a very large and intrusive thing. Walls are built on foundations. Its not being able to make a main pipe though a foundation. Not a bug.

So you can't build a pipe through a wall but you can build a wall around a pipe? Seems a bit strange. Either way you can just put a small pipe in the wall which works fine

It's a bit hard to drill a perfectly pipe shaped hole in the foundation, but it's much easier to let concrete flow around a pipe. Also, making a pipe go under a wall would require digging a pit on both sides, and then shoving the pipe through, which is a bit hard.

This argument still strikes me as nonsensical since you can do the very same thing with a massive power line, running it 'under' an existing foundation which is in fact just as hard as running a water line.

[The Darkling Wolf]

Pipes are much more difficult to run through a wall than cables are. Cables typically stay the same diameter along their whole length.
It still seems a bit silly to have this represented in game though.

[Aklyon]

You know what even sillier? Watching a friend cover an entire map in electrical cables to because he'd edited the money to be able to do so.

[nenjin]

It's a PITA because it essentially asks you to lay piping prior to the foundation. Which, if you're like me, you need the foundation blue print first to even have an idea HOW you want to build.

That said, you can destroy the wall the pipe needs to go through and build back over it, and it seems to be just fine. It doesn't seem to upset the building foundation at all. Really, foundations seem to just be a short hand way to do stuff that you can already do by hand. (Put down flooring, build walls, add lights.)