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Author Topic: Empire: Total War Newbie LP: Prussians are Evil  (Read 16273 times)

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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2012, 11:29:37 pm »

We have no ports capable of building ships at the moment.  So our largest boat would be a rowboat.  Not even Stoworca could win a battle with it as it's not even an in game unit.

Put me in as the King consort.  Unlike the rest of the kingdom, Mainiac is completely sane.
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2012, 07:36:30 am »

In my own attempt at this, yesterday, i started by throwing three out of four "armies" (as in groups of 4 units each) on Sweds from turn 0, and bumrushed recruitment of Line Infantry in Warshau. You can easily capture Swed territory up until Finland early on (just make sure to merge before starting the invasion), and both cripple a powerful foe, and secure the entire east block.

From there, each enemy - except for Prussia - has only one way of getting to you.
Austria via Breslau, Ottomans via the fort in the south, Sweds via Finnish wastelands (They attack Denmark most often, instead of you)
Don't bother with a navy, and Swed navy will be of no concern - since they start with a war with everyone.

Thus, this is what i suggest. Prussians will, naturally, attack us sooner or later, but taking Konigsberg and curbstomping Prussians will be much easier without the threat of Sweds. Taking Sweden itself and Norway that early seems like a waste of time, and unnecessary longer front line. Halting at FInland allows your Russian allies to attack Sweds too. Should Russians capture Sweden and Norway, they will be of help to you for more wars, than just the one against Ottomans.
Ideally Prussians will be at war with Austria eventually.. Ideally... This is not to say that this war will weaken any of them, but with Austria as a threat, Konigsberg will have a lighter garrison.

My progress was slowed down by the fact, that i've discovered how to build schools in late 1720's, so i'll be starting a new campaign. It is, however, definitely possible to do much more.
What i've noticed is, as follows :
- AI doesn't just declare war on you "Because you're the player"
- As long as you keep your upkeep < (income - trade income), you can completely ignore navy.
- Combat AI is completely braindead.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 07:43:42 am by Stworca »
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2012, 07:49:11 am »

We have no ports capable of building ships at the moment.  So our largest boat would be a rowboat.  Not even Stoworca could win a battle with it as it's not even an in game unit.

Fine then. All provinces with a coastline shall build a port, and several provinces without a coastline shall build ports to improve our port-building technologies.

- Combat AI is completely braindead.

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Really? I mean, I know that it's a Total War game, but I thought that the AI would be better than that. In Napoleon the enemy liked to leave its cannons undefended and charge into the awaiting muzzles of your cannon, which could actually be kinda scary against all cavalry armies, but I digress. If AI was apparently improved in Napoleon, I shudder to think how terrible the Empire AI is.

- Don't bother with a navy, and Swed navy will be of no concern - since they start with a war with everyone.
- As long as you keep your upkeep < (income - trade income), you can completely ignore navy.

I'm the Minister of the Navy SPACE, and I disprove of this message. MORE BOATS!
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2012, 07:53:55 am »

- Combat AI is completely braindead.

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Really? I mean, I know that it's a Total War game, but I thought that the AI would be better than that. In Napoleon the enemy liked to leave its cannons undefended and charge into the awaiting muzzles of your cannon, which could actually be kinda scary against all cavalry armies, but I digress. If AI was apparently improved in Napoleon, I shudder to think how terrible the Empire AI is.

By firing at the fort in.. <insert Swedish Town Name here> with the demi-cannons and having my cavalry just outside, i've managed to lure them out in small groups, only to be slaughtered by a U-formation of my militia. So, aye, it's bad. It does know how to hold a line slightly better, and it's faster to react to some situations, but it's still inferior to most mods made for Rome & alike.

As for the navy, 'tis only my observation.

Do not, ever, recruit militia. It's better to spam Line Infantry in the capital, than to waste time on militia. The upkeep difference is minor, the quality gap is huge.
The only possible use for militia would be catching enemy bullets with their faces, so that more valuable units (every other unit) have less casualties. But the 60 upkeep difference is just a laugh.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 08:20:00 am by Stworca »
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2012, 09:04:10 am »

-snip-

I'm planning to bumrush the Prussians, unless our Foreign Affairs Minister vetos it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2012, 09:43:35 am »

In that case, from a military stand point, a trick that may work is trading West Prussia for East Prussia, and then reclaiming our lands, with the more difficult - due to being walled and heavily garrisoned - city of Konigsberg already in your possession. Gdansk is a cake to take, with no walls nor infrastructure.

With the entire might of Prussia cramped in Berlin, they could be taken out before Sweden even realizes that we're exposed.

This is not an idea that will give us popularity, but since we aim at taking over the world, matter it does not.
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2012, 11:22:51 am »

That, however, would be the sensible thing to do, and thus could deprive us of much Fun. ETA of the first update is still sometime tonight.
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2012, 02:52:24 pm »

as some one currently curb stomping Poland, build forts on choke points and bridges and don't build Sakers at all they suck. also I now claim minister of defense of our glorious empire!
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2012, 03:09:13 pm »

We have a Minister of the Army.

I might break Minister of the Interior into Minister of Technology and Minister of the Economy, because Elfeater originally requested to be in charge of tech, but not the rest of it.

You can claim a unit though.

ETA: TBA, as Amazon is shitting all over their schedule on me.
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2012, 04:33:12 pm »

Well then, can you give me the best Unit of cannons we have and go kill something?
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2012, 05:04:03 pm »

Well then, can you give me the best Unit of cannons we have and go kill something?

That would be the mighty.. demi-cannons  :P
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2012, 11:02:49 pm »

Well, I seen worse. Also I suggest as a humble servant to get bayonets as early as possible they will greatly increase our armies Kill/death ratio in Hand to hand.
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2012, 11:14:58 pm »

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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2012, 02:33:13 am »

Make friends with Austria, point knives at backs for later.
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Re: Empire: Total War Newbie LP
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2012, 07:09:31 pm »

You guys deserve an update; the local mouth-breathers have totally fucked up my order, so the beginning is completely up in limbo.
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