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Author Topic: LCS 4.06.5 Download (Bank Heists, Mar 2013)  (Read 94058 times)

Jonathan S. Fox

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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #300 on: December 07, 2012, 01:43:41 pm »

*Codedives*

*Sees heat is now 10 times what it used to be*

*Eyepop*

Whaaaaat?!?

Fox, my man, are you serious?

Individual Liberals now have ten times the heat value, but transfer heat to safehouses at one tenth the rate. The change was made to support gradual heat decay on Liberals, which otherwise would have been striking off huge chunks of heat every day due to the lack of granularity.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #301 on: December 07, 2012, 01:46:02 pm »

Do saves get deleted after you lose? Or move to the next save?

LCS deletes your save when you lose, yeah. And it overwrites the old save whenever it saves again.

It's very permadeathy.
Yeah, but Id like a way for you to manual save in game, and choose where you want to load the game when opening, I think being able to save and load just for learning purposes would be amazing (I haven't played in forever so I need to relearn a little), and while its unrelated, I think something else that would be cool is adding an in game cheat mode, where you can just do whatever ever you want, like spawn items, spawn creatures, revive liberals, insta-kill conservatives, both of these would be GREAT for learning the game.

Defeat is a better instructor than victory, provided you live long enough to learn from your mistakes. That being said, if you want to circumvent the system, just create backup copies of the LCS save file. For my two recorded playthroughs of the game, I made backups on the off-chance I hit a fatal error and the game crashed. You'll certainly forfeit all bragging rights by doing so, but... hey, it's your time, and if that's what makes your playing experience more fun, then do it.
Appropriately enough, creating backup saves actually causes one of LCS's fatal errors.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #302 on: December 07, 2012, 06:50:36 pm »

Individual Liberals now have ten times the heat value, but transfer heat to safehouses at one tenth the rate. The change was made to support gradual heat decay on Liberals, which otherwise would have been striking off huge chunks of heat every day due to the lack of granularity.

Was it intentional that it now takes about 10 times the amount of Community Service to shed the heat?

Or that "scary" crimes are now 10 times as scary as before when it comes to trial?

I did some calculations on that last part...
Quiz for everyone:
If you get the most liberal jury imaginable, sleeper judge, no testimonies, the ace liberal lawyer on his best day and the worst prosecution ever; is it possible to get a "Not Guilty" on 5 counts of Treason?
As of 4.06.2, no.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #303 on: December 07, 2012, 06:58:14 pm »

You can, however, probably do it yourself, but it requires lots of Law and Persuasion to do so.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #304 on: December 07, 2012, 07:23:48 pm »

*More calculations*

OK, fine. Let's make it 5 counts of Treason and one count of unlawful access of an information system so you can't save yourself.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #305 on: December 07, 2012, 09:15:48 pm »

I had wondered about that--the same general stats that got a Not Guilty from 4-5 counts of Treason last version could only get 3-4 counts (plus Flag Murders & Harmful Speech) down to 26 years in this one.  Enough confounding variables to bar scientific comparison, but it seemed off.

Thanks for posting, Pesi.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #306 on: December 07, 2012, 10:02:25 pm »

Individual Liberals now have ten times the heat value, but transfer heat to safehouses at one tenth the rate. The change was made to support gradual heat decay on Liberals, which otherwise would have been striking off huge chunks of heat every day due to the lack of granularity.

Was it intentional that it now takes about 10 times the amount of Community Service to shed the heat?

Or that "scary" crimes are now 10 times as scary as before when it comes to trial?

Nope. Good catch.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #307 on: December 10, 2012, 06:04:41 am »

"Scary" Crimes?

Dang it Jonathan S. Fox you didn't tell me you added a Haunted House!

I So want to recruit the Costumed Zombies and Witches!
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #308 on: December 11, 2012, 01:23:07 am »

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but here goes.

I've been playing through a 'don't get noticed by anyone' run, and decided to be like a small, but highly talented and organized crime mob. No one on my squad has any crimes whatsoever on their rap sheet.

So the day comes when we decide to hit the Vault. There's a sleeper bank manager at the ready, and the Master Thief opens the vault with no trouble. However, even when no one saw us, 'collecting' the bricks of cash causes 'Bank Robbery' to be added to the crimes list and automatically makes your alert level go up.

Is this a bug, or intentional? I wanted to make a completely silent run of it.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #309 on: December 11, 2012, 05:12:57 pm »

I'm fairly sure it's intentional.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #310 on: December 11, 2012, 05:14:00 pm »

I just realized that this game is not truly in step with the Liberal Agenda. We do have issues for such Conservative things like alcohol and tobacco. Please Liberally rectify this immediately. For maximum Liberal effect, it should be placed under marijuana like so:

All recreational drugs are regulated and taxed.
Alcohol is illegal and possession carries prison sentences.
Tobacco is illegal and possession carries prison sentences.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #311 on: December 11, 2012, 05:48:14 pm »

Isn't prohibition a conservative notion?

Also I'm certain that booze and tobacco count as recreational drugs.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #312 on: December 11, 2012, 06:14:18 pm »

Most of today's Liberals don't think so.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #313 on: December 11, 2012, 06:16:47 pm »

Most of today's Liberals don't think so.
That's a pretty big generalization, besides there's a big difference between an LCS Liberal and a Modern Liberal.
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Re: LCS 4.06.3 Download (Bank Heists, Sept 2012)
« Reply #314 on: December 11, 2012, 06:19:32 pm »

Most of today's Liberals don't think so.
That's a pretty big generalization, besides there's a big difference between an LCS Liberal and a Modern Liberal.
That's a Conservative opinion.
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