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[Pnx]

I vote for what I think is spot 3? I don't know what the colors being referenced refer to

I'm proposing two possible ways to settle the north-west.

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Feel free to suggest any placement you want, though!

It's easy to see how you'd miss it.

[Frumple]

Definitely the upper right teal, at least for the first one. Crabapples! I think it gives us more special resources we don't already have at least one of, anyway, which is probably good? I... I've never actually gotten around to figuring out if they stack. I think they do, but...

Anyway. Five shinies as opposed to four or three. Obvious choice is obvious, especially when the two "three" options don't allow for crab jokes.

[Aqizzar]

I definitely support north-most teal for the first new city here, up by the river.  West-most violet for the second area, riverside hills are always the best places to put cities.

I for one don't think it's so weird that it took three goddamn millennia to fight a war with the Celts.  Sure, it's fun to picture some Neanderthal islanders having a conversation like, "We have always been at war with the Celts. Who are the Celts? The ones we have always been at war with."  But I think of it like the earliest records of 'warfare' which really more like violent migrations.  In the earliest known histories of places like Egypt and Babylon (themselves still worlds more advanced than us), their early historical records don't even have names for who they were fighting and conquered by.  Like the "Sea Peoples" and such, which is probably what the native Celts call us.

More importantly, I am baffled that we're not the most powerful civilization in the world right now, given that we have two cities to probably everyone else's one.  I hate Civilization difficulty.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It didn't take the Aztecs three millennia to conquer people.

[Pnx]

I definitely support north-most teal for the first new city here, up by the river.  West-most violet for the second area, riverside hills are always the best places to put cities.

Yes, this seems like a pretty good idea to me. Both cities should be near rivers and have good access to resources, and the culture borders should expand to cover the gaps between them.

[Furtuka]

Ah ok I vote Teal then

[Bluerobin]

I like the middle or top location, but how would trade routes work if we settled in the top one? If we settle in the middle or bottom location we get free trade routes because of raft building, but if we settle in the top we can't link that city to our trade network with a REALLY long road. I don't really remember how important that is, though.

[Frumple]

Eh? All the ones that Pnx quoted (I can't see the ones in the main update due to shitpad not loading about three fourths of the screenshots) have water access, don't they? Diagonals.

[10ebbor10]

I like the middle or top location, but how would trade routes work if we settled in the top one? If we settle in the middle or bottom location we get free trade routes because of raft building, but if we settle in the top we can't link that city to our trade network with a REALLY long road. I don't really remember how important that is, though.

There's a river leading to the sea. Rivers are natural roads

[FritzPL]

I definitely support north-most teal for the first new city here, up by the river.  West-most violet for the second area, riverside hills are always the best places to put cities.

I am just gonna trust Aqizzar's suggestion here, as I think we both wish the same thing.
If a city has a diagonal access to the sea, does that still count? Can it still build ships and take benefits from having access to sea?

[ansontan2000]

I definitely support north-most teal for the first new city here, up by the river.  West-most violet for the second area, riverside hills are always the best places to put cities.

I am just gonna trust Aqizzar's suggestion here, as I think we both wish the same thing.
If a city has a diagonal access to the sea, does that still count? Can it still build ships and take benefits from having access to sea?

Yep. Diagonal access is fine, or at least in vanilla civ 4 it is.

[10ebbor10]

I can confirm that it also works in the mod.

Besides, If we have problems with rebellions, we can always try to bribe. One thing I notice about this mod is that you get much more money. At least I do.

[Svampapa]

Resources stack? Really? I've always been trading off anything beyond the first. Or at least trying to... usually ends up in world war anyways... all vs. me.

[Boksi]

Alright, time for another update. A smaller one this time.

[Bluerobin]

Ah ok, for some reason I didn't think diagonals worked. I vote for apples!